[Eril-l] ACS and pay-per-view - would you be interested?

Thu May 10 11:45:07 PDT 2018

I'd agree with Eric that consortia don't have sweetheart deals or huge
discounts with ACS. Members of the TexShare Consortium who participate in
our ACS purchase see roughly the same percentage increases year to year as
institutions everywhere else do. We do get a small "single payer" discount
by collecting the fees from our roughly 35 participants (University of
Texas System not included) and sending a single check to ACS, as it saves
ACS a lot of work to consolidate those contracts. ACS is encouraging us to
move some our our smaller institutions to the ACS Core plus tokens system
to keep costs down, and a number have done so.

Danielle Cunniff Plumer
Statewide Resource Sharing Administrator
Texas State Library and Archives Commission
Library Development and Networking Division
512-463-5433
512-936-2306 fax
dplumer at tsl.texas.gov

On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 1:34 PM, Eric Elmore <Eric.Elmore at utsa.edu> wrote:

> I don’t think I’d characterize what we pay as any kind of sweetheart deal,
> just that our users do their part and use this resource heavily.  I am
> verklempt every time I go to pay the invoice, but being an
> engineering/science focused institution there’s not really any way of not
> subscribing to some of these things.
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> Of course, being the accrediting agency AND the publisher is a pretty
> sweet deal, must be nice to require your own content for accreditation.
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> Eric Elmore                                                             |
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> *From:* Eril-l [mailto:eril-l-bounces at lists.eril-l.org] *On Behalf Of *Karen
> Jensen
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 10, 2018 11:39 AM
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> *Cc:* eril-l at lists.eril-l.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Eril-l] ACS and pay-per-view - would you be interested?
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> So the big consortia systems get amazing deals such that the impact on any
> one library is minimal. Those of us without opportunities to be part of
> these systems have little bargaining power, especially since the same body
> that accredits our program sells us the content required for accreditation.
> How far is this really from a protection racket? But ACS members won't
> change it. In theory they could, right? It's a membership organization?
> There are more benefits to members than libraries see, apparently.
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> Karen Jensen
> Collection Development Officer
> Rasmuson Library
> University of Alaska Fairbanks
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> 907-474-6695
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> kljensen at alaska.edu
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> On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 8:35 AM, Eric Elmore <Eric.Elmore at utsa.edu> wrote:
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> We’re about 24k fte,   both engineering and science colleges that are very
> active:  $1.63 cpu.
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> We get ACS as part of the University of Texas system, so our pricing may
> be a tad lower than others due to consortial arrangements.
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> Eric Elmore                                                             |
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> One UTSA Circle                                                     |
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> San Antonio, TX.  78249-0671                             |
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> *From:* Eril-l [mailto:eril-l-bounces at lists.eril-l.org] *On Behalf Of *Melissa
> Belvadi
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 10, 2018 10:22 AM
> *To:* Leslie Burke <Leslie.Burke at kzoo.edu>
> *Cc:* eril-l at lists.eril-l.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Eril-l] ACS and pay-per-view - would you be interested?
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> Just took a look at our last invoice for Web Editions and our 2017 COUNTER
> JR1, and we're running about $6 per ft use, so I'd guess they would not be
> willing to have a pay per view below that.
>
> Most of us probably can't reveal our actual contract price (nondisclosure
> agreements) but I don't think anything prohibits us from sharing our cost
> per use, so I'd be interested in how ours compares with others.
>
> We're a small university, under 5,000 FTE, without a graduate level
> program in chemistry.
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> Melissa Belvadi
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> Collections Librarian
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> University of Prince Edward Island
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> mbelvadi at upei.ca 902-566-0581
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> my public calendar
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> On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 11:22 AM, Leslie Burke <Leslie.Burke at kzoo.edu>
> wrote:
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> They do sort of have a pay-per-view option, by purchasing groups of
> tokens. They are also not cheap. I'd be more interested in notifying our
> patrons which titles are included in our subscriptions and which ones are
> not. We have the Academic Collection w/250 tokens, but there's no way to
> indicate to users which ones we have access to and which will use a token.
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> Leslie D. Burke
> Collection Development & Digital Integration Librarian
> College Library
> Kalamazoo College
> 1200 Academy St.
> Kalamazoo, MI 49006
> Leslie.Burke at kzoo.edu
> ph: 269.337.7144
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> *From:* Eril-l <eril-l-bounces at lists.eril-l.org> on behalf of Jackie S.
> DeLong <jdelong2 at washcoll.edu>
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 10, 2018 9:45 AM
> *To:* eril-l at lists.eril-l.org
> *Subject:* [Eril-l] ACS and pay-per-view - would you be interested?
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>
> I have suggested to American Chemical Society adding a pay-per-view option
> instead of their subscription packages.  I’m told they don’t offer that
> option.  I’m just wondering, how many schools out there would be interested
> in a Pay-per-view option of ACS titles?  We are a very small school, and
> the prices for ACS are not sustainable and are very hard to justify outside
> accreditation requirements.  I’m feeling very frustrated actually.  Am I
> the only one??
>
> Venting, and also want to see how many others feel the same way and what
> you have done to offset the cost.
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> Thanks
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> Jackie DeLong
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