[Eril-l] limiting Kanopy

Mon Mar 18 15:22:02 PDT 2019

Hi all- just wanted to mention that I attended the recent SCELC Colloquium<https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TUe9I0ht0n--Iutajs5rAzY060QpQ5dn/view>, and this came up as a topic. Joshua Keyes from the Claremont Colleges presented "Curbing the Stream: Developing a Sustainable Streaming Video Strategy." I don't have contact info for Joshua, except for what I found on the CC website: https://libguides.libraries.claremont.edu/prf.php?account_id=181565.  Hope this may be helpful to someone. The solution he presented may not work for all (anything already available in another format or another subscription service was disabled for immediate streaming, and the user would need to request access to stream this content), but it is one option. I do hope we can find a way to get our users access to all the content the want and need, while not going bankrupt in the process.

From: Eril-l <eril-l-bounces at lists.eril-l.org> On Behalf Of Bhatt, Anjana
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Subject: Re: [Eril-l] limiting Kanopy

Becky,
One more on Kanopy discussion thread.

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Subject: Re: [Eril-l] limiting Kanopy

One thing we've done recently to limit cost is to identify regularly used films and proactively pay for the 3 year license. We're able to cut the cost of the total rental and be sure that we'll have content we know is being used.

Through some fortuitous budget management, we are also able to pay for a 3 year license for the Janus Criterion collection this fiscal year. That is by far the most used collection we have. We can now steer faculty, students and staff to that collection and encourage recreational use of that.

However, we are going to have to move to mediated access this coming fiscal year. We're looking at cuts to the collection budget and so, much as I'd like to continue to figure out how to maintain as much access as possible, we just can't do this anymore. Thanks to those of you who shared how you are managing the mediation. We're going to have to work out workflows.

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Subject: Re: [Eril-l] limiting Kanopy

I find the responses Amy received to be interesting.  Did they explain why they were able to load patron accounts for public libraries but not academic libraries?  I wouldn't expect the numbers to be much different.  I don't know the language they used but their lack of interest to create additional options in support of academic libraries says a lot.

So far (knock on wood) we have been able to continue with unmediated access.  We are spending about $1,500-$2,000 per month.  We have been able to accommodate this so far as we have reduced the number of DVDs we have purchased and we discovered an endowed fund we can use to also assist with these costs.  We did send out a communication to faculty and staff explaining the cost for Kanopy titles.  We had one faculty member respond how good the Kanopy collection was and she had planned to watch a number of films (for personal enjoyment) but wouldn't now that she was aware of the pricing.

Maybe this is a bit much but if Kanopy continues to be unwilling to better accommodate academic libraries, maybe we should all move to mediated access which could have some financial impact for them and send a message.
On 3/13/19 4:07 PM, Amy Lynn Fry wrote:
I was wondering if anyone out there had come up with a way to limit Kanopy use successfully. What did you do? How much did it make a difference to your spend?

Evidently, for public libraries, Kanopy loads all patron accounts and libraries can limit each person to a certain number of streams per month. I asked Kanopy about that at ER&L last week and they said there was no way that would be possible for academic libraries.

I also asked if they had thought about making ways for us to limit besides only by subject or provider, and they said no and that they weren't interested in creating additional options.

Without other good alternatives, we are planning to change our entire Kanopy profile to mediated after this semester and thereafter only approve license requests made by faculty and perhaps graduate students.

Has anyone else made this switch?

What about alternatives to Kanopy? The content and access are good and obviously filling a need in our user population, but Kanopy's business model is just not a good fit for our budget limits. Is there another service that could be a substitute?

Amy Fry
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Jerome Library
Bowling Green, OH 43403
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