[Eril-l] limiting Kanopy

Thu Mar 14 08:22:52 PDT 2019

We started a Kanopy PDA in 2016 with all collections available. Because we
were concerned that too many films would be triggered and costs would soar,
we didn't load MARC records and made just one announcement to faculty. That
low-profile approach worked well -- until recently. Apparently word of
mouth about all the great films in Kanopy got out, and our fall 2018
invoices started to skyrocket. We made the decision to switch to mediated
access starting with spring semester. We only gave faculty about 3 weeks
notice -- it wasn't enough. We should've let them know a semester in
advance so they could adjust their syllabi accordingly. We had one faculty
member who had already planned on using 5-6 Kanopy films this semester, so
we ended up getting one-year licenses for those. A few other faculty asked
us to renew licenses that we previously had and were about to expire.

Switching to mediated provided us an opportunity to educate faculty on the
high cost of academic streaming video. They had no idea we had to pay $150
for a one-year license for ONE film. We now have control over the costs.
Getting the requests for each film allows me to make sure we don't already
have it in our Academic Video Online streaming subscription and starts a
dialogue about how they're going to use it (in class? DVD works as well; or
out-of-class viewing) and how many years they plan to use it (3-year
license is cheaper in the long run than getting 3 1-year licenses). It's
more labor-intensive, but we don't have to worry about blowing our budget.

We used to have a subscription to Films on Demand (FOD) but cancelled it
because it was getting very expensive, usage was decreasing, and we now
have Academic Video Online (AVON); however, in a quick and dirty comparison
of content in FOD, AVON, and Kanopy, I found only about 25% overlap, so
each platform has lots of unique content. I've never used Docuseek, but I
have a postcard on my desk as a reminder that it's another option if
faculty need something not available on our existing platforms.

Beth

Beth Jacoby
Content Development Librarian
Schmidt Library
Library & Technology Services
York College of Pennsylvania
441 Country Club Rd.
York, PA  17403-3651

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From: Martincik, Lisa L <lisa-martincik at uiowa.edu>
Date: Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 4:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Eril-l] [External] Re: limiting Kanopy
To: Eril-l at lists.eril-l.org <Eril-l at lists.eril-l.org>

Aside from two small, subject-based PDAs that are funded by subject
selectors, our Kanopy orders are entirely title-by-title and placed by
Acquisitions. With rare exceptions we pay only for titles that faculty
request for classes; it’s quite time-consuming and still not cheap, but we
have caught requests that are for titles already in our catalog or
otherwise unsuitable. Even so we plan to re-examine our criteria in light
of the continual increase for streaming video and continual shrinkage of
our budget. L

Best,

Lisa

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Lisa Martincik     lisa-martincik at uiowa.edu

Electronic Resources Librarian

University of Iowa Libraries      52242

319.384.0648       www.lib.uiowa.edu

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*From:* Eril-l <eril-l-bounces at lists.eril-l.org> *On Behalf Of *
Arndt,Theresa
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 13, 2019 3:39 PM
*To:* Eril-l at lists.eril-l.org
*Subject:* [External] Re: [Eril-l] limiting Kanopy

We continue to follow these discussions, as we are also struggling with
run-away Kanopy PDA costs.  I would be interested in hearing if going to
partial-mediation has controlled costs, or do users trigger just as many
films from those that still readily available.

Amy, look into Films on Demand as a possible alternative.  They offer a
flat-rate annual subscription which we find affordable, and they work with
library consortia to offer discounts.  We have found that more than a few
of the Kanopy films being triggered here are also available on the Films on
Demand platform.   Films on Demand recently upgraded their user interface,
most likely in response to competition from Kanopy.   Also, FoD has
superior transcripts and teaching support tools than Kanopy.

- Best, Theresa

Theresa Arndt, MLS

Associate Director for Library Resources and Administration

Library and Information Services

Dickinson College

P.O. Box 1773

Carlisle, PA 17013

voice:  717-245-1750

fax:  717-245-1439

arndtt at dickinson.edu

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I am not directly involved in our Kanopy setup any more but here is what I
know.

We very recently shifted from an all access model to a completely mediated
model. This mirrors what has been previously  mentioned here and on other
library discussions lists by several other libraries. From now on, the only
approved use for a Kanopy video will be for a professor needing it for a
class, and this will require that person to fill out a Kanopy-provided
request form. Unfortunately, that request form cannot be customized or
rather, Kanopy is not willing to customize it.

I agree that this is a useful and clearly in-demand service, with a nice,
intuitive interface, good analytics, and content that users obviously want.
But whatever money Kanopy receives from us will be drastically reduced from
now on due to unsustainable use coupled with inflexibility on their part to
provide alternative ways for us to work within a limited budget.

We also have several Alexander Street Press streaming video collections,
but they generally don’t receive as much use and are much more focused in
their subject content, anyway.

Steve

Steve Oberg

Group Leader for Resource Description and Digital Initiatives

Buswell Library | Wheaton College (IL) | +1 (630) 752-5852

Past President, NASIG <http://www.nasig.org/> | Personal Blog
<https://familymanlibrarian.blogspot.com/>

*From: *Eril-l <eril-l-bounces at lists.eril-l.org> on behalf of Amy Lynn Fry <
afry at bgsu.edu>
*Date: *Wednesday, March 13, 2019 at 3:08 PM
*To: *"Eril-l at lists.eril-l.org" <Eril-l at lists.eril-l.org>
*Subject: *[Eril-l] limiting Kanopy

I was wondering if anyone out there had come up with a way to limit Kanopy
use successfully. What did you do? How much did it make a difference to
your spend?

Evidently, for public libraries, Kanopy loads all patron accounts and
libraries can limit each person to a certain number of streams per month. I
asked Kanopy about that at ER&L last week and they said there was no way
that would be possible for academic libraries.

I also asked if they had thought about making ways for us to limit besides
only by subject or provider, and they said no and that they weren’t
interested in creating additional options.

Without other good alternatives, we are planning to change our entire
Kanopy profile to mediated after this semester and thereafter only approve
license requests made by faculty and perhaps graduate students.

Has anyone else made this switch?

What about alternatives to Kanopy? The content and access are good and
obviously filling a need in our user population, but Kanopy’s business
model is just not a good fit for our budget limits. Is there another
service that could be a substitute?

Amy Fry

Associate Professor, E-resources Librarian

Jerome Library

Bowling Green, OH 43403

afry at bgsu.edu

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