[Eril-l] ACS and pay-per-view - would you be interested?

Thu Mar 7 06:11:41 PST 2019

ACS uses Document Delivery from FIZ Autodoc in Germany:
https://www.stn-international.org/autodoc_doc_delivery0.html

Several years ago, we set this up so our ILL dept. can mediate access to
ACS documents. Not ideal, but thought others might be interested. It works
well enough.
I wrote an ACRLog blog post on our process (2013, so a bit dated now, but
it gives the process we went through): https://acrlog.org/tag/acs/

There still seems to be a lot of interest in ACS journal access, though. We
also have other journals (also SciFinder, and Web of Science now) that work
with the ACS requirements.
Sue

Sue Wiegand
Periodicals Librarian
123 Cushwa-Leighton Library
Saint Mary's College
Notre Dame, IN 46556
574.284.4789

On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 8:42 AM Melissa Belvadi <mbelvadi at upei.ca> wrote:

> We just had to drop from full title list to a subset as of 2019, with
> tokens, so I just recently investigated some of this. No, there is still no
> mediated option for tokens, nor any way for librarians to control how they
> get used - anyone in our IP range accessing any eligible content can
> trigger them with no limits.  There is no such "filing cabinet". I can't
> speak to pricing or expiration because our consortially negotiated deal
> just gives us a fixed amount of tokens per year as part of a subscription
> package, so there is no separate price for the tokens themselves.  We have
> no budget to purchase more after those are used up, so I haven't looked at
> what it might cost us to get more.
> I don't even know if we can get any kind of report on what
> journals/articles they are used on.
>
> Melissa Belvadi
> Collections Librarian
> University of Prince Edward Island
> mbelvadi at upei.ca  902-566-0581
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> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 12:10 PM J Siemon <jsiemon2002 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Has anyone seen changes in the American Chemical Society's token access
>> since this eril-l discussion in May 2018?
>>
>> Is ACS offering the tokens that can be mediated by staff (like Elsevier)?
>>
>> Is there a "filing cabinet" (like IEEE) where the library only pays once
>> for each article, and have perpetual access thereafter, for a certain
>> number of saved articles?
>> Pricing? Caps on increases? Longer expiration of tokens?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jeff Siemon, M.Div.,MLS  |  Assoc. Professor, Electronic Resources
>> Librarian  |  Nicholson Library
>> Anderson University  |  1100 E. Fifth St, Anderson, IN 46012
>> josiemon at anderson.edu | library.anderson.edu  |
>> www.linkedin.com/in/JeffSiemon
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------
>>
>> > *From:* Eril-l <eril-l-bounces at lists.eril-l.org> on behalf of Jackie S.
>> > DeLong <jdelong2 at washcoll.edu>
>> > *Sent:* Thursday, May 10, 2018 9:45 AM
>> > *To:* eril-l at lists.eril-l.org
>> > *Subject:* [Eril-l] ACS and pay-per-view - would you be interested?
>> >
>> > I have suggested to American Chemical Society adding a pay-per-view
>> option
>> > instead of their subscription packages.  I?m told they don?t offer that
>> > option.  I?m just wondering, how many schools out there would be
>> interested
>> > in a Pay-per-view option of ACS titles?  We are a very small school, and
>> > the prices for ACS are not sustainable and are very hard to justify
>> outside
>> > accreditation requirements.  I?m feeling very frustrated actually.  Am I
>> > the only one??
>> >
>> > Venting, and also want to see how many others feel the same way and what
>> > you have done to offset the cost.
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> > Jackie DeLong
>> > *Director of Resource Management*
>> > *Miller Library | Washington College*
>> > 300 Washington Ave. Chestertown, MD 21620
>> > (410) 778-7278 | jdelong2 at washcoll.edu
>>
>> " The other thing that drives me nuts is that every time a person opens
>> an article from an ACS journal that needs a token for access, counts as one
>> token. This is problematic!!! Students will open another browser, reopen an
>> article multiple times, share a link with a classmate, or if a single
>> article is posted on a course page or used in class, the single article
>> could result in 100s of openings without actually reading the article. Each
>> of ?usages? counts as a token."
>>
>> Message: 18
>> Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 13:45:07 -0500
>> From: danielle plumer <dcplumer at gmail.com>
>> To: "eril-l at lists.eril-l.org" <eril-l at lists.eril-l.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Eril-l] ACS and pay-per-view - would you be interested?
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>> > On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 11:22 AM, Leslie Burke <Leslie.Burke at kzoo.edu>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > ?They do sort of have a pay-per-view option, by purchasing groups of
>> > tokens. They are also not cheap. I'd be more interested in notifying our
>> > patrons which titles are included in our subscriptions and which ones
>> are
>> > not. We have the Academic Collection w/250 tokens, but there's no way to
>> > indicate to users which ones we have access to and which will use a
>> token.
>>
>> > Leslie D. Burke
>> > Collection Development & Digital Integration Librarian
>> > College Library
>> > Kalamazoo College
>> > 1200 Academy St.
>> > Kalamazoo, MI 49006
>> > Leslie.Burke at kzoo.edu
>> > ph: 269.337.7144
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 14:56:01 +0000
>> From: Theresa Borchert <borchert at cord.edu>
>> To: Leslie Burke <Leslie.Burke at kzoo.edu>, "Jackie S. DeLong"
>>         <jdelong2 at washcoll.edu>, "eril-l at lists.eril-l.org"
>>         <eril-l at lists.eril-l.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Eril-l] ACS and pay-per-view - would you be interested?
>> Message-ID:
>>         <9ED4D661E084B841B79E7DAC1BD8E38501307EA57B at dag2.cord.local>
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>>
>> We had to drop from full access to a few titles and the token option a
>> few years ago. I identified our ?owned? titles in WorldCat KB so when
>> finding ACS titles in WorldCat Discovery patrons will only get full-text
>> links to ACS titles we have access to. I also talk with our Chemistry
>> faculty and in classes about this problem. However, this does not help
>> token access for direct access at ACS website and SciFinder Scholar. Google
>> Scholar is a bit better since our on-campus computers are set with our
>> College settings in Google Scholar.
>>
>> The ACS costs are prohibitive and unrealistic. Any percentage increase is
>> unsustainable on budgets that have not had increases in years. Just do the
>> math! Our savings a few years ago are now totally eaten away.
>>
>> The other thing that drives me nuts is that every time a person opens an
>> article from an ACS journal that needs a token for access, counts as one
>> token. This is problematic!!! Students will open another browser, reopen an
>> article multiple times, share a link with a classmate, or if a single
>> article is posted on a course page or used in class, the single article
>> could result in 100s of openings without actually reading the article. Each
>> of ?usages? counts as a token.
>>
>> sigh
>>
>> Theresa Borchert, Librarian
>> Concordia College
>> Moorhead, MN 56562
>> 1-218-299-3235
>> -----------------
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 12:21:47 -0300
>> From: Melissa Belvadi <mbelvadi at upei.ca>
>> To: Leslie Burke <Leslie.Burke at kzoo.edu>
>> Cc: "Jackie S. DeLong" <jdelong2 at washcoll.edu>,
>>         "eril-l at lists.eril-l.org" <eril-l at lists.eril-l.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Eril-l] ACS and pay-per-view - would you be interested?
>> Message-ID:
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>>
>> Just took a look at our last invoice for Web Editions and our 2017 COUNTER
>> JR1, and we're running about $6 per ft use, so I'd guess they would not be
>> willing to have a pay per view below that.
>> Most of us probably can't reveal our actual contract price (nondisclosure
>> agreements) but I don't think anything prohibits us from sharing our cost
>> per use, so I'd be interested in how ours compares with others.
>> We're a small university, under 5,000 FTE, without a graduate level
>> program
>> in chemistry.
>>
>> Melissa Belvadi
>> Collections Librarian
>> University of Prince Edward Island
>> mbelvadi at upei.ca 902-566-0581
>> --------------
>> Lots of libraries sharing cost per use numbers from $6 to $47.
>>
>> -------------
>> On May 10, 2018, at 9:40 AM, Karen Jensen <kljensen at alaska.edu<mailto:
>> kljensen at alaska.edu>> wrote:
>>
>> ... Those of us without opportunities to be part of these [consortia]
>> systems have little bargaining power, especially since the same body that
>> accredits our program sells us the content required for accreditation. How
>> far is this really from a protection racket? But ACS members won't change
>> it. In theory they could, right? It's a membership organization? There are
>> more benefits to members than libraries see, apparently.
>>
>> Karen Jensen
>> Collection Development Officer
>> Rasmuson Library
>> University of Alaska Fairbanks
>> 907-474-6695
>> kljensen at alaska.edu<mailto:kljensen at alaska.edu>
>> --------------
>> Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 17:24:36 +0000
>> From: Michael Qiu <M_Qiu at acs.org>
>> To: Karen Jensen <kljensen at alaska.edu>
>> Cc: "eril-l at lists.eril-l.org" <eril-l at lists.eril-l.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Eril-l] ACS and pay-per-view - would you be interested?
>> Message-ID: <318F4384-F69D-4413-9239-F73B7A8E2526 at acs.org>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>> Hi all:
>>
>> My name is Michael Qiu and I?m the Library Relations Manager with ACS
>> Publications. My role is to ensure your issues and concerns are addressed
>> and shared with the appropriate people at ACS. I?m not a sales rep, nor do
>> I know much about your pricing, tokens, packages, etc. I encourage all of
>> you to reach out to your Account Managers to discuss any issues you might
>> have around pricing, usage, etc. They are the best equip to help answer any
>> of your questions and do not hesitate to ask them about different options.
>>
>> As a former academic librarian, I do understand there are some
>> misconceptions around the ACS Approved Degree program. I wanted to provide
>> some insight and links for more information.
>>
>> The Committee on Professional Training (CPT) is an ACS member based
>> committee that sets the guidelines for approved bachelor?s degrees. ACS is
>> not a degree accrediting body, therefore it?s called an approved degree.
>> These guidelines are set by the members of the committee who are
>> professors, instructors, etc. at colleges and universities.
>>
>> In 2015, the committee updated their guidelines, including the
>> requirements for chemistry information resources. There is no requirement
>> for ACS specific journals, but to have a suite of journals that cover the
>> diverse nature of the chemical sciences from any publisher. There is more
>> information on the guideline, section 4.4, page 8.
>>
>> CPT HomePage:
>> https://www.acs.org/content/acs/en/about/governance/committees/training.html
>> (PDF) Degree Approval guidelines:
>> https://www.acs.org/content/dam/acsorg/about/governance/committees/training/2015-acs-guidelines-for-bachelors-degree-programs.pdf
>>
>> I encourage anyone with feedback on the guidelines to contact the ACS
>> Office of Professional Training. They have a dedicated email address,
>> CPT at acs.org<mailto:CPT at acs.org>, to help answer any questions.
>>
>> If you ever need anything from ACS, please do not hesitate to reach out
>> to me, your Account Manager, or our Customer Support & Services team. All
>> my contact information is below, including my direct phone number.
>>
>> Best, Michael
>>
>> Michael Qiu, MLIS
>> Library Relations Manager
>> American Chemical Society, Publications Division
>> 1155 16th Street NW | Washington, DC 20036
>> Phone: +1 (202) 872-6386
>> Mobile: +1 (202) 281-9115
>> Email: M_Qiu at acs.org<mailto:M_Qiu at acs.org>
>> ----
>> Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 17:49:11 +0000
>> From: "Beth M. Johns" <bmjohns at SVSU.edu>
>> To: "Jackie S. DeLong" <jdelong2 at washcoll.edu>,
>>         "eril-l at lists.eril-l.org" <eril-l at lists.eril-l.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Eril-l] ACS and pay-per-view - would you be interested?
>>
>> We subscribe to a package through our consortium. In my opinion, it gets
>> good usage, though I'd need to look more closely to see which titles are
>> actually being used (maybe it's just a few over and over? I don't really
>> look unless someone higher up asks me to do so. ).  I've heard about the
>> token approach, but would be interested in learning about a pay-per-view
>> option if ACS would like to seriously discuss that option.
>>
>> Beth M. Johns, MLIS
>> E-Resources Librarian
>> Saginaw Valley State University
>> Melvin J. Zahnow Library
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