[Eril-l] ACS and pay-per-view - would you be interested?

Wed Mar 6 08:09:58 PST 2019

Has anyone seen changes in the American Chemical Society's token access
since this eril-l discussion in May 2018?

Is ACS offering the tokens that can be mediated by staff (like Elsevier)?
Is there a "filing cabinet" (like IEEE) where the library only pays once
for each article, and have perpetual access thereafter, for a certain
number of saved articles?
Pricing? Caps on increases? Longer expiration of tokens?

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> *From:* Eril-l <eril-l-bounces at lists.eril-l.org> on behalf of Jackie S.
> DeLong <jdelong2 at washcoll.edu>
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 10, 2018 9:45 AM
> *To:* eril-l at lists.eril-l.org
> *Subject:* [Eril-l] ACS and pay-per-view - would you be interested?
>
> I have suggested to American Chemical Society adding a pay-per-view option
> instead of their subscription packages.  I?m told they don?t offer that
> option.  I?m just wondering, how many schools out there would be
interested
> in a Pay-per-view option of ACS titles?  We are a very small school, and
> the prices for ACS are not sustainable and are very hard to justify
outside
> accreditation requirements.  I?m feeling very frustrated actually.  Am I
> the only one??
>
> Venting, and also want to see how many others feel the same way and what
> you have done to offset the cost.
>
> Thanks
>
> Jackie DeLong
> *Director of Resource Management*
> *Miller Library | Washington College*
> 300 Washington Ave. Chestertown, MD 21620
> (410) 778-7278 | jdelong2 at washcoll.edu

" The other thing that drives me nuts is that every time a person opens an
article from an ACS journal that needs a token for access, counts as one
token. This is problematic!!! Students will open another browser, reopen an
article multiple times, share a link with a classmate, or if a single
article is posted on a course page or used in class, the single article
could result in 100s of openings without actually reading the article. Each
of ?usages? counts as a token."

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Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 13:45:07 -0500
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> On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 11:22 AM, Leslie Burke <Leslie.Burke at kzoo.edu>
> wrote:
>
> ?They do sort of have a pay-per-view option, by purchasing groups of
> tokens. They are also not cheap. I'd be more interested in notifying our
> patrons which titles are included in our subscriptions and which ones are
> not. We have the Academic Collection w/250 tokens, but there's no way to
> indicate to users which ones we have access to and which will use a token.

> Leslie D. Burke
> Collection Development & Digital Integration Librarian
> College Library
> Kalamazoo College
> 1200 Academy St.
> Kalamazoo, MI 49006
> Leslie.Burke at kzoo.edu
> ph: 269.337.7144

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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 14:56:01 +0000
From: Theresa Borchert <borchert at cord.edu>
To: Leslie Burke <Leslie.Burke at kzoo.edu>, "Jackie S. DeLong"
        <jdelong2 at washcoll.edu>, "eril-l at lists.eril-l.org"
        <eril-l at lists.eril-l.org>
Subject: Re: [Eril-l] ACS and pay-per-view - would you be interested?
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We had to drop from full access to a few titles and the token option a few
years ago. I identified our ?owned? titles in WorldCat KB so when finding
ACS titles in WorldCat Discovery patrons will only get full-text links to
ACS titles we have access to. I also talk with our Chemistry faculty and in
classes about this problem. However, this does not help token access for
direct access at ACS website and SciFinder Scholar. Google Scholar is a bit
better since our on-campus computers are set with our College settings in
Google Scholar.

The ACS costs are prohibitive and unrealistic. Any percentage increase is
unsustainable on budgets that have not had increases in years. Just do the
math! Our savings a few years ago are now totally eaten away.

The other thing that drives me nuts is that every time a person opens an
article from an ACS journal that needs a token for access, counts as one
token. This is problematic!!! Students will open another browser, reopen an
article multiple times, share a link with a classmate, or if a single
article is posted on a course page or used in class, the single article
could result in 100s of openings without actually reading the article. Each
of ?usages? counts as a token.

sigh

Theresa Borchert, Librarian
Concordia College
Moorhead, MN 56562
1-218-299-3235
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Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 12:21:47 -0300
From: Melissa Belvadi <mbelvadi at upei.ca>
To: Leslie Burke <Leslie.Burke at kzoo.edu>
Cc: "Jackie S. DeLong" <jdelong2 at washcoll.edu>,
        "eril-l at lists.eril-l.org" <eril-l at lists.eril-l.org>
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Just took a look at our last invoice for Web Editions and our 2017 COUNTER
JR1, and we're running about $6 per ft use, so I'd guess they would not be
willing to have a pay per view below that.
Most of us probably can't reveal our actual contract price (nondisclosure
agreements) but I don't think anything prohibits us from sharing our cost
per use, so I'd be interested in how ours compares with others.
We're a small university, under 5,000 FTE, without a graduate level program
in chemistry.

Melissa Belvadi
Collections Librarian
University of Prince Edward Island
mbelvadi at upei.ca 902-566-0581
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Lots of libraries sharing cost per use numbers from $6 to $47.

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On May 10, 2018, at 9:40 AM, Karen Jensen <kljensen at alaska.edu<mailto:
kljensen at alaska.edu>> wrote:

... Those of us without opportunities to be part of these [consortia]
systems have little bargaining power, especially since the same body that
accredits our program sells us the content required for accreditation. How
far is this really from a protection racket? But ACS members won't change
it. In theory they could, right? It's a membership organization? There are
more benefits to members than libraries see, apparently.

Karen Jensen
Collection Development Officer
Rasmuson Library
University of Alaska Fairbanks
907-474-6695
kljensen at alaska.edu<mailto:kljensen at alaska.edu>
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Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 17:24:36 +0000
From: Michael Qiu <M_Qiu at acs.org>
To: Karen Jensen <kljensen at alaska.edu>
Cc: "eril-l at lists.eril-l.org" <eril-l at lists.eril-l.org>
Subject: Re: [Eril-l] ACS and pay-per-view - would you be interested?
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Hi all:

My name is Michael Qiu and I?m the Library Relations Manager with ACS
Publications. My role is to ensure your issues and concerns are addressed
and shared with the appropriate people at ACS. I?m not a sales rep, nor do
I know much about your pricing, tokens, packages, etc. I encourage all of
you to reach out to your Account Managers to discuss any issues you might
have around pricing, usage, etc. They are the best equip to help answer any
of your questions and do not hesitate to ask them about different options.

As a former academic librarian, I do understand there are some
misconceptions around the ACS Approved Degree program. I wanted to provide
some insight and links for more information.

The Committee on Professional Training (CPT) is an ACS member based
committee that sets the guidelines for approved bachelor?s degrees. ACS is
not a degree accrediting body, therefore it?s called an approved degree.
These guidelines are set by the members of the committee who are
professors, instructors, etc. at colleges and universities.

In 2015, the committee updated their guidelines, including the requirements
for chemistry information resources. There is no requirement for ACS
specific journals, but to have a suite of journals that cover the diverse
nature of the chemical sciences from any publisher. There is more
information on the guideline, section 4.4, page 8.

CPT HomePage:
https://www.acs.org/content/acs/en/about/governance/committees/training.html
(PDF) Degree Approval guidelines:
https://www.acs.org/content/dam/acsorg/about/governance/committees/training/2015-acs-guidelines-for-bachelors-degree-programs.pdf

I encourage anyone with feedback on the guidelines to contact the ACS
Office of Professional Training. They have a dedicated email address,
CPT at acs.org<mailto:CPT at acs.org>, to help answer any questions.

If you ever need anything from ACS, please do not hesitate to reach out to
me, your Account Manager, or our Customer Support & Services team. All my
contact information is below, including my direct phone number.

Best, Michael

Michael Qiu, MLIS
Library Relations Manager
American Chemical Society, Publications Division
1155 16th Street NW | Washington, DC 20036
Phone: +1 (202) 872-6386
Mobile: +1 (202) 281-9115
Email: M_Qiu at acs.org<mailto:M_Qiu at acs.org>
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Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 17:49:11 +0000
From: "Beth M. Johns" <bmjohns at SVSU.edu>
To: "Jackie S. DeLong" <jdelong2 at washcoll.edu>,
        "eril-l at lists.eril-l.org" <eril-l at lists.eril-l.org>
Subject: Re: [Eril-l] ACS and pay-per-view - would you be interested?

We subscribe to a package through our consortium. In my opinion, it gets
good usage, though I'd need to look more closely to see which titles are
actually being used (maybe it's just a few over and over? I don't really
look unless someone higher up asks me to do so. ).  I've heard about the
token approach, but would be interested in learning about a pay-per-view
option if ACS would like to seriously discuss that option.

Beth M. Johns, MLIS
E-Resources Librarian
Saginaw Valley State University
Melvin J. Zahnow Library
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