[Eril-l] changes in Carnegie Classification

[Dave Fowler]

One other thing that could affect pricing vis a vis Carnegie, is that an R2 school is eligible for ARL membership. Now, only a few R2s are in ARL, but if your library did accession the ARL due to a higher Carnegie classification, then some vendors might consider that factor in pricing.

Dave



From: Eril-l <eril-l-bounces at lists.eril-l.org> On Behalf Of Nagata, Judith
Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2019 12:59 PM
To: Mueth, Sarah <mueths at uncw.edu>; eril-l at lists.eril-l.org
Subject: Re: [Eril-l] changes in Carnegie Classification

Sarah,

I agree with Dave Fowler. However, it is true that if your institution adds a PhD (at a Master's institution) or increases the number of your PhD-granting programs, you will be reclassed at a different Carnegie level and some costs will rise. This happened at a previous institution. You can negotiate with vendors, however, to offset or delay the costs so that you can prepare your Administration and your budget for the change. There weren't a lot of vendors, but there are some and the cost increases for a couple were significant. I don't know what would happen when the Carnegie classification system changes, but I suspect Dave's information can help you prepare for that.

Best,

Judith

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On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 12:23 PM Dave Fowler <dcfowler at uoregon.edu<mailto:dcfowler at uoregon.edu>> wrote:
My experience is that most vendors charge by FTE,  and only a small handful use Carnegie classifications. With those,  I suppose it is possible.

I was involved with working in the Carnegie Classification process this year, which was really interesting.

The big change was an effort to better represent schools that graduated a lot of professional doctorates (MDs, DOs,  EdDs, etc.), as opposed to PhDs.

To do this. R1 was enlarged slightly, and R2 was enlarged a lot. R2 gained all the former R3s that graduated at least 20 research doctorates, and that had a research spend of at least $5 million.

The remaining R3s were combined with masters schools that graduated at least 20 professional practice doctorates in at least two fields, so that ended up "promoting" a bunch of schools that previously did not qualify in the traditional doctoral categories, such as UNC Wilmington,  Creighton, Quinnipiac, etc.

The new classifications came out on Monday, and will be in a review phase through January, while minor corrections are made.

Dave Fowler
University of Oregon



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Date: 12/21/18 9:55 AM (GMT-05:00)
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Subject: [Eril-l] changes in Carnegie Classification

Hi ERIL,

Does anyone have experience with your university’s Carnegie Classification changing? We’re moving from “Master’s Colleges & Universities: Larger Programs” to “Doctoral Universities: High Research Activity” status and I’m concerned about the effect that will have on the cost of our electronic subscriptions.

Thanks.

Sarah

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University of North Carolina Wilmington
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