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library did accession the ARL due to a higher Carnegie classification, then some vendors might consider that factor in pricing.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Nagata, Judith<br>
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<b>To:</b> Mueth, Sarah <mueths@uncw.edu>; eril-l@lists.eril-l.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Eril-l] changes in Carnegie Classification<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I agree with Dave Fowler. However, it is true that if your institution adds a PhD (at a Master's institution) or increases the number of your PhD-granting programs, you will be reclassed at a different Carnegie level and some costs will
rise. This happened at a previous institution. You can negotiate with vendors, however, to offset or delay the costs so that you can prepare your Administration and your budget for the change. There weren't a lot of vendors, but there are some and the cost
increases for a couple were significant. I don't know what would happen when the Carnegie classification
<i>system</i> changes, but I suspect Dave's information can help you prepare for that.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 12:23 PM Dave Fowler <<a href="mailto:dcfowler@uoregon.edu">dcfowler@uoregon.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">My experience is that most vendors charge by FTE, and only a small handful use Carnegie classifications. With those, I suppose it is possible.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I was involved with working in the Carnegie Classification process this year, which was really interesting.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">The big change was an effort to better represent schools that graduated a lot of professional doctorates (MDs, DOs, EdDs, etc.), as opposed to PhDs.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">To do this. R1 was enlarged slightly, and R2 was enlarged a lot. R2 gained all the former R3s that graduated at least 20 research doctorates, and that had a research spend of at least $5 million.
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<p class="MsoNormal">The remaining R3s were combined with masters schools that graduated at least 20 professional practice doctorates in at least two fields, so that ended up "promoting" a bunch of schools that previously did not qualify in the traditional
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<p class="MsoNormal">The new classifications came out on Monday, and will be in a review phase through January, while minor corrections are made.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">From: "Mueth, Sarah" <<a href="mailto:mueths@uncw.edu" target="_blank">mueths@uncw.edu</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Date: 12/21/18 9:55 AM (GMT-05:00) <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Subject: [Eril-l] changes in Carnegie Classification <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Does anyone have experience with your university’s Carnegie Classification changing? We’re moving from “Master’s Colleges & Universities: Larger Programs” to “Doctoral Universities:
High Research Activity” status and I’m concerned about the effect that will have on the cost of our electronic subscriptions.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Thanks.
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