[Eril-l] ACS and pay-per-view - would you be interested?

Thu May 10 09:33:10 PDT 2018

Our cpu is $13.24 for 2017. It varies considerably year to year, but always
at the high end compared to other scientific resources.

ACS has to charge a lot for its content, if for nothing else but to keep
its executives in this "not-for-profit corporation" amply paid. You can check
out their Form 990
<https://www.acs.org/content/dam/acsorg/about/aboutacs/financial/2016-form-990.pdf>.I
get that they have to pay a lot to pull chemical engineers out of jobs in
profitable companies to run the ACS, but it seems a bit over the top to me
to have so many people so highly paid, while libraries, librarians, and
library staffs are being constantly threatened with cuts (or actually
getting them, and dealing with the fallout). They also have to keep a
strong legal team going so that they can sue anyone who criticizes them.

Karen Jensen
Collection Development Officer
Rasmuson Library
University of Alaska Fairbanks
907-474-6695
kljensen at alaska.edu

On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 7:59 AM, Beth Jacoby <bjacoby at ycp.edu> wrote:

> We're also under 5000 FTE with no graduate chem program. Our cpu is
> around $10 based on our annual rate to the CORE package, but it's actually
> higher. Our chemistry department paid for batches of tokens several years
> in a row, the cost of which I didn't add into the CPU calculation. Now that
> all those tokens are gone and we have no plans to get more, I expect our
> CPU to increase because our patrons won't have access to non-subscribed
> titles.
>
> Beth
>
>
> Beth Jacoby
> Content Development Librarian
> Schmidt Library
> Library & Technology Services
> York College of Pennsylvania
> 441 Country Club Rd.
> York, PA  17403-3651
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 11:31 AM, Jackie S. DeLong <jdelong2 at washcoll.edu>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Melissa,
>>
>> Looks like our cost per use for current titles is $44.  Cost per use of
>> archive is $18. We are pretty small – 1500ist students.  $6 = yes please!
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Jackie
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> *Jackie DeLong*
>>
>> *Director of Resource Management*
>>
>> *Miller Library | Washington College*
>>
>> 300 Washington Ave. Chestertown, MD 21620
>>
>> (410) 778-7278 | jdelong2 at washcoll.edu
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Melissa Belvadi <mbelvadi at upei.ca>
>> *Date: *Thursday, May 10, 2018 at 11:22 AM
>> *To: *Leslie Burke <Leslie.Burke at kzoo.edu>
>> *Cc: *Jackie DeLong <jdelong2 at washcoll.edu>, "eril-l at lists.eril-l.org" <
>> eril-l at lists.eril-l.org>
>> *Subject: *Re: [Eril-l] ACS and pay-per-view - would you be interested?
>>
>>
>>
>> Just took a look at our last invoice for Web Editions and our 2017
>> COUNTER JR1, and we're running about $6 per ft use, so I'd guess they would
>> not be willing to have a pay per view below that.
>>
>> Most of us probably can't reveal our actual contract price (nondisclosure
>> agreements) but I don't think anything prohibits us from sharing our cost
>> per use, so I'd be interested in how ours compares with others.
>>
>> We're a small university, under 5,000 FTE, without a graduate level
>> program in chemistry.
>>
>>
>> Melissa Belvadi
>>
>> Collections Librarian
>>
>> University of Prince Edward Island
>>
>> mbelvadi at upei.ca 902-566-0581
>>
>> my public calendar
>> <http://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=mbelvadi%40upei.ca&ctz=America/Halifax&mode=week>
>>
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>> On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 11:22 AM, Leslie Burke <Leslie.Burke at kzoo.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>> They do sort of have a pay-per-view option, by purchasing groups of
>> tokens. They are also not cheap. I'd be more interested in notifying our
>> patrons which titles are included in our subscriptions and which ones are
>> not. We have the Academic Collection w/250 tokens, but there's no way to
>> indicate to users which ones we have access to and which will use a token.
>>
>>
>>
>> Leslie D. Burke
>> Collection Development & Digital Integration Librarian
>> College Library
>> Kalamazoo College
>> 1200 Academy St.
>> Kalamazoo, MI 49006
>> Leslie.Burke at kzoo.edu
>> ph: 269.337.7144
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* Eril-l <eril-l-bounces at lists.eril-l.org> on behalf of Jackie S.
>> DeLong <jdelong2 at washcoll.edu>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 10, 2018 9:45 AM
>> *To:* eril-l at lists.eril-l.org
>> *Subject:* [Eril-l] ACS and pay-per-view - would you be interested?
>>
>>
>>
>> I have suggested to American Chemical Society adding a pay-per-view
>> option instead of their subscription packages.  I’m told they don’t offer
>> that option.  I’m just wondering, how many schools out there would be
>> interested in a Pay-per-view option of ACS titles?  We are a very small
>> school, and the prices for ACS are not sustainable and are very hard to
>> justify outside accreditation requirements.  I’m feeling very frustrated
>> actually.  Am I the only one??
>>
>> Venting, and also want to see how many others feel the same way and what
>> you have done to offset the cost.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Jackie DeLong
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> *Jackie DeLong*
>>
>> *Director of Resource Management*
>>
>> *Miller Library | Washington College*
>>
>> 300 Washington Ave. Chestertown, MD 21620
>>
>> (410) 778-7278 | jdelong2 at washcoll.edu
>>
>>
>>
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