[Eril-l] [FORGED] Cambridge adopted the same bad platform as Taylor & Francis?

Tue Sep 20 12:34:00 PDT 2016

Susan,

I have tried clicking on the second box and nothing happens.  I usually use Firefox, so I tried IE and had the same results.  I tried again in Firefox and got a Page not found message.  The form is back again, but clicking on All titles does nothing.  I even tried clearing my cache, but no luck.

If this is not happening to others, then probably this should go offlist.

Kimberly Montgomery
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From: Susan Henthorn [mailto:Susan_Henthorn at berea.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 3:30 PM
To: Jennifer Sauer <jsauer at fhsu.edu>; Kimberly Montgomery <Kimberly.Montgomery at ucf.edu>; Tristan C Collier <tcollier at cambridge.org>; eril-l at lists.eril-l.org
Subject: RE: [Eril-l] [FORGED] Cambridge adopted the same bad platform as Taylor & Francis?

Kimberly,

If you are testing this on a mobile device, you may have to scroll a bit to get to the list.

Like Jennifer, I had no difficulty with the link with any device (phone, tablet, or laptop/desktop) - the list is just more obvious when using a laptop or desktop computer.

Susan
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From: Eril-l [mailto:eril-l-bounces at lists.eril-l.org] On Behalf Of Jennifer Sauer
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 3:23 PM
To: Kimberly Montgomery <Kimberly.Montgomery at ucf.edu<mailto:Kimberly.Montgomery at ucf.edu>>; Tristan C Collier <tcollier at cambridge.org<mailto:tcollier at cambridge.org>>; eril-l at lists.eril-l.org<mailto:eril-l at lists.eril-l.org>
Subject: Re: [Eril-l] [FORGED] Cambridge adopted the same bad platform as Taylor & Francis?

Kimberly,

I tried the link you posted and it did pull up a full alphabetical listing with search filters for titles subjects and access types. Hmmmm. The site is consistently asking me to accept cookies - but even so, the list loaded before I accepted.

Curious.

Jennifer

Jennifer Sauer, MLIS
Scholar Services and Electronic Resources Librarian
Forsyth Library: Explore-Collaborate-Create

Fort Hays State University
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From: Eril-l [mailto:eril-l-bounces at lists.eril-l.org] On Behalf Of Kimberly Montgomery
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 2:20 PM
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Subject: Re: [Eril-l] [FORGED] Cambridge adopted the same bad platform as Taylor & Francis?

Tristan,

When I follow the link you gave below (https://www.cambridge.org/core/what-we-publish/journals ), I do not see an A-Z journals listing.  I see only a search box.  That doesn't help me find out which journals are available.  It means I already have to know what the titles are to see them.

Is there a trick to displaying the list?

Kimberly Montgomery
Electronic Resources Cataloger Librarian
Cataloging Services Department
University of central Florida Libraries
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From: Eril-l [mailto:eril-l-bounces at lists.eril-l.org] On Behalf Of Tristan C Collier
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 11:06 AM
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Subject: Re: [Eril-l] [FORGED] Cambridge adopted the same bad platform as Taylor & Francis?

Dear All,

Thanks for your feedback about Cambridge Core. This is very valuable for us in terms of informing platform development going forwards.

Design
We're sorry that Diane doesn't like the design of the platform. Bob Pearson is correct in saying that the T&F platform is built on Atypon technology, whereas Cambridge Core is entirely bespoke and built in-house. So there is no common technology or shared design between the two platforms.  In response to Steve Oberg, yes Cambridge Core is entirely created by CUP, though we did work with two or three partners on areas like usage reporting and web analytics. Apologies if this wasn't clear enough in my response to LibLicense-L.

Cambridge Core was developed after exhaustive user research, especially amongst academic researchers, but also librarians, authors and society publishers, so there may have been similar requests made by researchers when T&F designed their platform.  Of course, not everyone is going to agree, even within these groups, on their preferred solutions, but we have tried to please as many people as possible.

Yes Cambridge Core is 'responsive', or designed to work on all devices.  As several have commented, this is imperative due to the proliferation of non-desktop technology and the need to provide a good experience on handheld devices.

A-Z journals listing
This is available here: https://www.cambridge.org/core/what-we-publish/journals We are currently consulting on whether we can improve on the signposting to get people to this.

Content I have access to
Thanks Leslie for your approval for our check box for "only search content I have access to".  We discussed this option at great length with a panel of librarians who tested Cambridge Core at Charleston last year and many other librarians globally.  We are looking to improve the display of what users have access to - we are considering how to show access symbols on the all issues page as well as at the article/journal page/chapter/book levels.

Advanced Search
Diane you also mentioned that Advanced Search does not feature. In some ways, we feel that Cambridge Core is an example of less is more in this regard.  The search function on Cambridge Core is far more powerful than the search on our previous platforms and the faceting options on the left hand side enable accurate pinpointing of content in a way that was never possible across the previous 6 platforms. So in fact the Cambridge Core search is far smarter than the Advanced Search on the old systems. We have tried to provide a solution that is of maximum benefit to our readers and libraries globally, but of course we are always hoping to improve this if we receive feedback and we will continue to review our search solution.

Of course, most readers search in library systems and internet search engines, not on publisher platforms.

Future development
The good news is that Cambridge Core has been built on new, flexible technology, which will enable us to make improvements more quickly than was possible with our previous platforms.

I hope this goes some way towards explaining the development work behind Cambridge Core.  Once again, thanks for all your input and please let us know if you have further questions or comments.

Best wishes
Tristan

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Senior Library Marketing Manager,
Institutional Marketing

Cambridge University Press
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Cambridge, CB2 8BS
England, UK
http://www.cambridge.org/core

From: Bob Pearson <b.pearson at auckland.ac.nz<mailto:b.pearson at auckland.ac.nz>>
Date: September 19, 2016 at 7:50:42 PM EDT
To: "'eril-l at lists.eril-l.org<mailto:eril-l at lists.eril-l.org>'" <eril-l at lists.eril-l.org<mailto:eril-l at lists.eril-l.org>>
Subject: Re: [Eril-l] [FORGED] Cambridge adopted the same bad platform as Taylor & Francis?
On a technical point - I believe T&F Online is on the Atypon Literatum platform. I don't know whether Cambridge Core is, or whether CUP developed their own platform.

Bob Pearson
Digital Access Librarian
Digital Services
The University of Auckland Library
New Zealand
From: Eril-l [mailto:eril-l-bounces at lists.eril-l.org] On Behalf Of Diane Westerfield
Sent: Tuesday, 20 September 2016 6:16 a.m.
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Subject: [FORGED] [Eril-l] Cambridge adopted the same bad platform as Taylor & Francis?

Hey everybody,

I was trying to log into Cambridge today and noticed the new "Cambridge Core" seems to have adopted the same bad platform as Taylor & Francis, just with different branding. Dumbed down, no Advanced Search, no Journal Titles A-Z, generic Bootstrap look, hard to see what you have access to until you drill down to the article level.

https://www.cambridge.org/core
http://taylorandfrancis.com/

I'm unable to articulate in a polite way my displeasure so I'll just leave those links for others to browse, unhappily.

Diane Westerfield, Electronic Resources & Serials Librarian
Tutt Library, Colorado College
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