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Hi Jackie,

I recently reviewed several of the 2024 licenses in the ESAC Registry<https://esac-initiative.org/about/transformative-agreements/agreement-registry/> and SPARC Contract Library<https://sparcopen.org/our-work/big-deal-knowledge-base/contracts-library/> for AI language. Of the 22 providers I found licenses for, only four had language restricting AI use (Elsevier, IEEE, Springer Nature, and Wiley). You can see document with the specific license language here<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-rfdIqM1LFuFfMPhy2ZFuddWJ-_zEfGbb0hURFkMu7M/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.s4uhvznuhed5>. This summarizes what I found for Springer Nature:

  *   Four licenses were reviewed for Springer Nature. All four licenses include AI language, but there was no definition of AI in any of the licenses. Two of the licenses refer to an FAQ, but do not link to this FAQ.
  *   All four licenses restrict using the content with any AI tool: Users cannot use the content to "update, change, revise, adapt, modify, translate, transform or create any derivative works," including with AI tools, nor can they use the content to train, directly or indirectly, any AI tool or system.
  *   DEAL's license included the following language, note that the URL links out to a PDF without an FAQ:
     *   To provide clarity and guidance for Member Institutions and Authorized Users, DEAL Operating Entity and Publisher agree to jointly monitor the legal and technological developments regarding artificial intelligence tools in relation to the use of Content during the Term of this Agreement, and align on such in a joint working group. The working group will discuss such developments, issue guidance with respect to specific use cases in a mutually agreed FAQ related to this Agreement (to be found at https://keeper.mpdl.mpg.de/f/ece56f1759ed4cc5902f/?dl=1) , and may mutually review and suggest revisions to the Agreement in relation to the use of artificial intelligence.
  *   UNL/UKB's license includes the following language. Note that the license did not include the FAQ:
     *   The parties are aware of the recent developments in artificial intelligence. These have created, and continue to create, various questions around how artificial intelligence tools may be - or may not be - used in relation to copyrighted works, author rights, moral rights, personality rights, personal data, the integrity of existing scientific content as well as the creation of new scientific works. The challenges created by AI do not only affect the legal relationship between publishers and libraries, but affect also various other relationships and considerations, particularly for researchers both as authors and as users, which need to become aware of the implications when using AI. Considering this, the parties have discussed and agreed to the foregoing in light of the current legal and technological developments at the signing date of this License Agreement. The parties agree that at this point in time, many questions around the use of artificial intelligence still need to be answered. Key questions may need to be addressed primarily in planned legislation. Therefore, the parties agree to jointly monitor the legal and technological developments regarding artificial intelligence tools in relation to the use of Content during the Term of this License Agreement, discuss such developments, issue guidance with respect to specific use cases in a FAQ related to this License Agreement, and may mutually review and revise the License Agreement in relation to use of artificial intelligence in the future, considering the interests of all involved, including publishers, libraries and the research communities. This Section 4 shall survive any expiration or termination of this License Agreement, howsoever arising.

I hope this helps!

Jessica Harris

Electronic Resources Management Librarian

The University of Chicago Library

773-702-0228

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I use my phones internet through my data plan or hotspot. I check in with my laptop or on my phone. I try not to use the schools VPN because I thought it reads it like they are on campus and not everyone has the VPN set up.

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I always bring my laptop into work (Asus Zenbook, nice and light, under 1 kg) and test offsite access on it, using my phone's hotspot as the non-work network. Might have to play with a couple of those free VPNs though as that could be a more streamlined approach

We used to use Opera?s VPN for this, but ran into trouble with it a few years ago. Now we use the free version of ProtonVPN. It works a treat.

Matthew

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Iowa State University

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We use the free VPN built into the Opera browser to test.

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Ohio State University Libraries

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If you have a cell phone disconnected from wi-fi, that will work. If it can serve as a hotspot for your desktop, then so much the better. Babi Hammond Digital Experience Consultant Colorado State Library On Tue, Dec 17, 2024 at 12:?55 PM Electronic

If you have a cell phone disconnected from wi-fi, that will work. If it can serve as a hotspot for your desktop, then so much the better.

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Colorado State Library

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We are looking for a solution to mimic being off-campus to test our electronic resources. I currently do this by using a VPN that I pay for myself, which is not ideal. How do other folks do this? Do you use a VPN? If so, is there a specific VPN vendor you?d recommend?

Thanks!

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For occasional testing, it has worked for us to disconnect from the wireless service on campus and test using our phones.

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Hi all,

We are looking for a solution to mimic being off-campus to test our electronic resources. I currently do this by using a VPN that I pay for myself, which is not ideal. How do other folks do this? Do you use a VPN? If so, is there a specific VPN vendor you?d recommend?

Thanks!

Denis

Denis Shannon

Electronic Resources Librarian

University of Wyoming Libraries

University of Wyoming<http://www.uwyo.edu/>

635G Coe Library

Laramie, WY 82071

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Message: 4

Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2024 13:58:11 +0000

From: Electronic Resources in Libraries discussion list

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Subject: Re: [Eril-l] [External] Testing Access to E-resources from

                "off-campus"

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I have used some kind of remote desktop to my home computer. Depending on what OS I have at work vs home at the time, I might use Teamviewer, Windows Remote Desktop, Remmina, or some version of VNC. I also use those in the other direction, to get to my office computer to be "on campus" when working from home.

Melissa Belvadi

Collections Librarian

University of Prince Edward Island

mbelvadi at upei.ca<mailto:mbelvadi at upei.ca<mailto:mbelvadi at upei.ca%3cmailto:mbelvadi at upei.ca>>  902-566-0581

ORCID iD: 0000-0002-4433-0189

my public calendar<https://outlook.office365.com/owa/calendar/0fbab27c909e4493be65313bd66d66b6@upei.ca/5fa60af92c6d451c9ddf90c0bb11e00f15552192987609852692/calendar.html>

Make an appointment<https://mbelvadi.youcanbook.me/> via YouCanBookMe

My pronouns are ????/???????

My emails are sent during the hours that I work and I understand that you will respond during the hours that you work.

________________________________

From: Eril-l <eril-l-bounces at lists.eril-l.org<mailto:eril-l-bounces at lists.eril-l.org>> on behalf of Electronic Resources in Libraries discussion list via Eril-l <eril-l at lists.eril-l.org<mailto:eril-l at lists.eril-l.org>>

Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2024 9:36 AM

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Subject: Re: [Eril-l] [External] Testing Access to E-resources from "off-campus"

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For occasional testing, it has worked for us to disconnect from the wireless service on campus and test using our phones.

[cid:f941e69e-1b0d-4044-8cc1-bddd9b2fca24]

Ann Kucera (she, hers)

Manager of Library Systems

Adobe Digital Lounge Coordinator

Park Library 204A  |  Central Michigan University  |  Mount Pleasant, MI 48859

P: 989-774-2404  |  E: kucer1a at cmich.edu<mailto:kucer1a at cmich.edu>

http://www.cmich.edu/<http://www.cmich.edu/<http://www.cmich.edu/%3chttp:/www.cmich.edu/>>

________________________________

From: Eril-l <eril-l-bounces at lists.eril-l.org<mailto:eril-l-bounces at lists.eril-l.org>> on behalf of Electronic Resources in Libraries discussion list via Eril-l <eril-l at lists.eril-l.org<mailto:eril-l at lists.eril-l.org>>

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Subject: [External] [Eril-l] Testing Access to E-resources from "off-campus"

Hi all,

We are looking for a solution to mimic being off-campus to test our electronic resources. I currently do this by using a VPN that I pay for myself, which is not ideal. How do other folks do this? Do you use a VPN? If so, is there a specific VPN vendor you?d recommend?

Thanks!

Denis

Denis Shannon

Electronic Resources Librarian

University of Wyoming Libraries

University of Wyoming<http://www.uwyo.edu/>

635G Coe Library

Laramie, WY 82071

Direct 307-766-5619

denis.shannon at uwyo.edu<mailto:denis.shannon at uwyo.edu> ? uwyo.edu/libraries

Pronouns: he/him/his

[The University of Wyoming GreenDot logo]<https://www.uwyo.edu/greendot/>

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Message: 5

Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2024 14:10:12 +0000

From: Electronic Resources in Libraries discussion list

                <eril-l at lists.eril-l.org<mailto:eril-l at lists.eril-l.org>>

To: Electronic Resources in Libraries discussion list

                <eril-l at lists.eril-l.org<mailto:eril-l at lists.eril-l.org>>

Subject: Re: [Eril-l] [External] Testing Access to E-resources from

                "off-campus"

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Hello,

To test reports of issues offsite, we use SmartBear formerly CrossBrowser Testing.

Jennifer

From: Eril-l <eril-l-bounces at lists.eril-l.org<mailto:eril-l-bounces at lists.eril-l.org>> On Behalf Of Electronic Resources in Libraries discussion list via Eril-l

Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2024 8:58 AM

To: Electronic Resources in Libraries discussion list via Eril-l <eril-l at lists.eril-l.org<mailto:eril-l at lists.eril-l.org>>

Subject: [EXT] Re: [Eril-l] [External] Testing Access to E-resources from "off-campus"

I have used some kind of remote desktop to my home computer. Depending on what OS I have at work vs home at the time, I might use Teamviewer, Windows Remote Desktop, Remmina, or some version of VNC. I also use those in the other direction, to get to my office computer to be "on campus" when working from home.

Melissa Belvadi

Collections Librarian

University of Prince Edward Island

mbelvadi at upei.ca<mailto:mbelvadi at upei.ca<mailto:mbelvadi at upei.ca%3cmailto:mbelvadi at upei.ca>>  902-566-0581

ORCID iD: 0000-0002-4433-0189

my public calendar<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/outlook.office365.com/owa/calendar/0fbab27c909e4493be65313bd66d66b6@upei.ca/5fa60af92c6d451c9ddf90c0bb11e00f15552192987609852692/calendar.html__;!!MkQhnT5yHH0MPvOc00c!TTFmV1e0cooMQxmm8lYdfOaUHHn7mNxeAh8Ayi-m9yP1asJ_RKZbmadsTwo8a36OC2fTxk8CpIUZNJAj3K7O6fe7qgdXUsjM18Ug$>

Make an appointment<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/mbelvadi.youcanbook.me/__;!!MkQhnT5yHH0MPvOc00c!TTFmV1e0cooMQxmm8lYdfOaUHHn7mNxeAh8Ayi-m9yP1asJ_RKZbmadsTwo8a36OC2fTxk8CpIUZNJAj3K7O6fe7qgdXUqwI_fXV$> via YouCanBookMe

My pronouns are ????/???????

My emails are sent during the hours that I work and I understand that you will respond during the hours that you work.

________________________________

From: Eril-l <eril-l-bounces at lists.eril-l.org<mailto:eril-l-bounces at lists.eril-l.org<mailto:eril-l-bounces at lists.eril-l.org%3cmailto:eril-l-bounces at lists.eril-l.org>>> on behalf of Electronic Resources in Libraries discussion list via Eril-l <eril-l at lists.eril-l.org<mailto:eril-l at lists.eril-l.org<mailto:eril-l at lists.eril-l.org%3cmailto:eril-l at lists.eril-l.org>>>all

Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2024 9:36 AM

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Subject: Re: [Eril-l] [External] Testing Access to E-resources from "off-campus"

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For occasional testing, it has worked for us to disconnect from the wireless service on campus and test using our phones.

[cid:image002.png at 01DB512C.89AB7E10]

Ann Kucera (she, hers)

Manager of Library Systems

Adobe Digital Lounge Coordinator

Park Library 204A  |  Central Michigan University  |  Mount Pleasant, MI 48859

P: 989-774-2404  |  E: kucer1a at cmich.edu<mailto:kucer1a at cmich.edu<mailto:kucer1a at cmich.edu%3cmailto:kucer1a at cmich.edu>>

http://www.cmich.edu/<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/www.cmich.edu/__;!!MkQhnT5yHH0MPvOc00c!TTFmV1e0cooMQxmm8lYdfOaUHHn7mNxeAh8Ayi-m9yP1asJ_RKZbmadsTwo8a36OC2fTxk8CpIUZNJAj3K7O6fe7qgdXUrEfrNSN$<http://www.cmich.edu/%3chttps:/urldefense.com/v3/__http:/www.cmich.edu/__;!!MkQhnT5yHH0MPvOc00c!TTFmV1e0cooMQxmm8lYdfOaUHHn7mNxeAh8Ayi-m9yP1asJ_RKZbmadsTwo8a36OC2fTxk8CpIUZNJAj3K7O6fe7qgdXUrEfrNSN$>>

________________________________

From: Eril-l <eril-l-bounces at lists.eril-l.org<mailto:eril-l-bounces at lists.eril-l.org<mailto:eril-l-bounces at lists.eril-l.org%3cmailto:eril-l-bounces at lists.eril-l.org>>> on behalf of Electronic Resources in Libraries discussion list via Eril-l <eril-l at lists.eril-l.org<mailto:eril-l at lists.eril-l.org<mailto:eril-l at lists.eril-l.org%3cmailto:eril-l at lists.eril-l.org>>>

Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2024 2:50 PM

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Subject: [External] [Eril-l] Testing Access to E-resources from "off-campus"

Hi all,

We are looking for a solution to mimic being off-campus to test our electronic resources. I currently do this by using a VPN that I pay for myself, which is not ideal. How do other folks do this? Do you use a VPN? If so, is there a specific VPN vendor you?d recommend?

Thanks!

Denis

Denis Shannon

Electronic Resources Librarian

University of Wyoming Libraries

University of Wyoming<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/www.uwyo.edu/__;!!MkQhnT5yHH0MPvOc00c!TTFmV1e0cooMQxmm8lYdfOaUHHn7mNxeAh8Ayi-m9yP1asJ_RKZbmadsTwo8a36OC2fTxk8CpIUZNJAj3K7O6fe7qgdXUp2cnA6I$>

635G Coe Library

Laramie, WY 82071

Direct 307-766-5619

denis.shannon at uwyo.edu<mailto:denis.shannon at uwyo.edu<mailto:denis.shannon at uwyo.edu%3cmailto:denis.shannon at uwyo.edu>> ? uwyo.edu/libraries

Pronouns: he/him/his

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Message: 6

Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2024 10:07:33 -0500

From: Electronic Resources in Libraries discussion list

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To: Electronic Resources in Libraries discussion list

                <eril-l at lists.eril-l.org<mailto:eril-l at lists.eril-l.org>>

Subject: Re: [Eril-l] [External] Testing Access to E-resources from

                "off-campus"

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                <mailman.3339.1734534473.3982033.eril-l-eril-l.org at lists.eril-l.org<mailto:mailman.3339.1734534473.3982033.eril-l-eril-l.org at lists.eril-l.org>>

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Jennifer, can you tell us more about how you utilize SmartBear??? I am very

intrigued!

I can't help but notice that so many of the methods mentioned (which I also

use!) involve using our own personal devices, money, and/or off-hours time.

At least for me, it feels hard to articulate to others (i.e., higher ups)

why regular access to a device with a *non*-campus IP address is an ongoing

necessity of e-resources management. What if there were a document out

there that librarians could refer to or that had example language for

explaining to folks who don't do ERM work why it's necessary, and

summarizing ways this can be accomplished using the *institution's*

resources? Do folks think that could be useful in getting their

institutions to help implement better solutions to this problem?

All the best,

Jessica

Jessica LaBrie (she/her)

Electronic Resources Librarian

Library & Technology Services | Wellesley College

781-283-2102 | jessica.labrie at wellesley.edu<mailto:jessica.labrie at wellesley.edu>

On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 9:13?AM Electronic Resources in Libraries

discussion list via Eril-l <eril-l at lists.eril-l.org<mailto:eril-l at lists.eril-l.org>> wrote:

> Hello,

>

>

>

> To test reports of issues offsite, we use SmartBear formerly CrossBrowser

> Testing.

>

>

>

> Jennifer

>

>

>

>

>

> *From:* Eril-l <eril-l-bounces at lists.eril-l.org<mailto:eril-l-bounces at lists.eril-l.org>> *On Behalf Of *Electronic

> Resources in Libraries discussion list via Eril-l

> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 18, 2024 8:58 AM

> *To:* Electronic Resources in Libraries discussion list via Eril-l <

> eril-l at lists.eril-l.org<mailto:eril-l at lists.eril-l.org>>

> *Subject:* [EXT] Re: [Eril-l] [External] Testing Access to E-resources

> from "off-campus"

>

>

>

> I have used some kind of remote desktop to my home computer. Depending on

> what OS I have at work vs home at the time, I might use Teamviewer, Windows

> Remote Desktop, Remmina, or some version of VNC. I also use those in the

> other direction, to get to my office computer to be "on campus" when

> working from home.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Melissa Belvadi

>

> Collections Librarian

>

> University of Prince Edward Island

>

> mbelvadi at upei.ca<mailto:mbelvadi at upei.ca>  902-566-0581

>

> ORCID iD: 0000-0002-4433-0189

>

> my public calendar

> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/outlook.office365.com/owa/calendar/0fbab27c909e4493be65313bd66d66b6@upei.ca/5fa60af92c6d451c9ddf90c0bb11e00f15552192987609852692/calendar.html__;!!MkQhnT5yHH0MPvOc00c!TTFmV1e0cooMQxmm8lYdfOaUHHn7mNxeAh8Ayi-m9yP1asJ_RKZbmadsTwo8a36OC2fTxk8CpIUZNJAj3K7O6fe7qgdXUsjM18Ug$>

>

> Make an appointment

> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/mbelvadi.youcanbook.me/__;!!MkQhnT5yHH0MPvOc00c!TTFmV1e0cooMQxmm8lYdfOaUHHn7mNxeAh8Ayi-m9yP1asJ_RKZbmadsTwo8a36OC2fTxk8CpIUZNJAj3K7O6fe7qgdXUqwI_fXV$> via

> YouCanBookMe

>

> My pronouns are ????/???????

>

> My emails are sent during the hours that I work and I understand that you

> will respond during the hours that you work.

> ------------------------------

>

> *From:* Eril-l <eril-l-bounces at lists.eril-l.org<mailto:eril-l-bounces at lists.eril-l.org>> on behalf of Electronic

> Resources in Libraries discussion list via Eril-l <eril-l at lists.eril-l.org

> >all

> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 18, 2024 9:36 AM

> *To:* Electronic Resources in Libraries discussion list via Eril-l <

> eril-l at lists.eril-l.org<mailto:eril-l at lists.eril-l.org>>

> *Subject:* Re: [Eril-l] [External] Testing Access to E-resources from

> "off-campus"

>

>

>

>

>

> *CAUTION:* This email originated from outside of UPEI. Do not click links

> or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is

> safe. If you are uncertain, please use the Report Message button in Outlook

> and delete this email.

>

>

>

>

>

> *WARNING:* The sender of this email could not be verified and may not

> match the person in the 'FROM' field. Do not click links or open

> attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe.

> If you are uncertain, please use the Report Message button in Outlook and

> delete this email.

>

>

>

> For occasional testing, it has worked for us to disconnect from the

> wireless service on campus and test using our phones.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> *Ann Kucera *(she, hers)

>

> Manager of Library Systems

>

> Adobe Digital Lounge Coordinator

>

> Park Library 204A  |  Central Michigan University  |  Mount Pleasant, MI

> 48859

>

> P: 989-774-2404  |  E: kucer1a at cmich.edu<mailto:kucer1a at cmich.edu>

>

> http://www.cmich.edu/

> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/www.cmich.edu/__;!!MkQhnT5yHH0MPvOc00c!TTFmV1e0cooMQxmm8lYdfOaUHHn7mNxeAh8Ayi-m9yP1asJ_RKZbmadsTwo8a36OC2fTxk8CpIUZNJAj3K7O6fe7qgdXUrEfrNSN$>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------

>

> *From:* Eril-l <eril-l-bounces at lists.eril-l.org<mailto:eril-l-bounces at lists.eril-l.org>> on behalf of Electronic

> Resources in Libraries discussion list via Eril-l <eril-l at lists.eril-l.org

> >

> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 17, 2024 2:50 PM

> *To:* Electronic Resources in Libraries discussion list via Eril-l <

> eril-l at lists.eril-l.org<mailto:eril-l at lists.eril-l.org>>

> *Subject:* [External] [Eril-l] Testing Access to E-resources from

> "off-campus"

>

>

>

> Hi all,

>

>

>

> We are looking for a solution to mimic being off-campus to test our

> electronic resources. I currently do this by using a VPN that I pay for

> myself, which is not ideal. How do other folks do this? Do you use a VPN?

> If so, is there a specific VPN vendor you?d recommend?

>

>

>

> Thanks!

>

> Denis

>

>

>

> *Denis Shannon*

>

> Electronic Resources Librarian

>

> University of Wyoming Libraries

>

> *University of Wyoming*

> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/www.uwyo.edu/__;!!MkQhnT5yHH0MPvOc00c!TTFmV1e0cooMQxmm8lYdfOaUHHn7mNxeAh8Ayi-m9yP1asJ_RKZbmadsTwo8a36OC2fTxk8CpIUZNJAj3K7O6fe7qgdXUp2cnA6I$>

> 635G Coe Library

> Laramie, WY 82071

>

> Direct 307-766-5619

> denis.shannon at uwyo.edu<mailto:denis.shannon at uwyo.edu> ? uwyo.edu/libraries

> Pronouns: he/him/his

>

> [image: The University of Wyoming GreenDot logo]

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Message: 7

Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2024 15:28:25 +0000

From: Electronic Resources in Libraries discussion list

                <eril-l at lists.eril-l.org<mailto:eril-l at lists.eril-l.org>>

To: Electronic Resources in Libraries discussion list

                <eril-l at lists.eril-l.org<mailto:eril-l at lists.eril-l.org>>

Subject: Re: [Eril-l] [External] Testing Access to E-resources from

                "off-campus"

Message-ID:

                <mailman.3342.1734535770.3982033.eril-l-eril-l.org at lists.eril-l.org<mailto:mailman.3342.1734535770.3982033.eril-l-eril-l.org at lists.eril-l.org>>

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Cornell University library also uses Smartbear BitBar to test off campus access.

I find it useful to test different devices, systems (Windows or macOS), and browsers (everything, including browsers I haven?t got on my library issued laptop), androids or iphones.   https://smartbear.com/lp/bitbar/bitbar-web/

Kind regards,

Sally Lockwood

E-Resources Specialist

Working remotely

Cornell University

Ithaca, NY 14853

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Jennifer, can you tell us more about how you utilize SmartBear??? I am very intrigued!

I can't help but notice that so many of the methods mentioned (which I also use!) involve using our own personal devices, money, and/or off-hours time.

At least for me, it feels hard to articulate to others (i.e., higher ups) why regular access to a device with a non-campus IP address is an ongoing necessity of e-resources management. What if there were a document out there that librarians could refer to or that had example language for explaining to folks who don't do ERM work why it's necessary, and summarizing ways this can be accomplished using the institution's resources? Do folks think that could be useful in getting their institutions to help implement better solutions to this problem?

All the best,

Jessica

Jessica LaBrie (she/her)

Electronic Resources Librarian

Library & Technology Services | Wellesley College

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Hello,

To test reports of issues offsite, we use SmartBear formerly CrossBrowser Testing.

Jennifer

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I have used some kind of remote desktop to my home computer. Depending on what OS I have at work vs home at the time, I might use Teamviewer, Windows Remote Desktop, Remmina, or some version of VNC. I also use those in the other direction, to get to my office computer to be "on campus" when working from home.

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Collections Librarian

University of Prince Edward Island

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For occasional testing, it has worked for us to disconnect from the wireless service on campus and test using our phones.

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Hi all,

We are looking for a solution to mimic being off-campus to test our electronic resources. I currently do this by using a VPN that I pay for myself, which is not ideal. How do other folks do this? Do you use a VPN? If so, is there a specific VPN vendor you?d recommend?

Thanks!

Denis

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Electronic Resources Librarian

University of Wyoming Libraries

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I also struggle with the inappropriateness of using resources not paid for by my university to do my work. I refuse to entangle my phone in work for instance.

Since things like VNC are free, I feel a little better about that, but only a little.  And (long story) my home Internet cost is subsidized by the university so that seems fair.

The obvious way the univ could do this is with a pay-as-you-go smartphone data plan that they pay for, so you could test using the phone company's data network/IP range.

Melissa Belvadi

mbelvadi at upei.ca<mailto:mbelvadi at upei.ca>

Make an appointment: https://mbelvadi.youcanbook.me/

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Jennifer, can you tell us more about how you utilize SmartBear??? I am very intrigued!

I can't help but notice that so many of the methods mentioned (which I also use!) involve using our own personal devices, money, and/or off-hours time.

At least for me, it feels hard to articulate to others (i.e., higher ups) why regular access to a device with a non-campus IP address is an ongoing necessity of e-resources management. What if there were a document out there that librarians could refer to or that had example language for explaining to folks who don't do ERM work why it's necessary, and summarizing ways this can be accomplished using the institution's resources? Do folks think that could be useful in getting their institutions to help implement better solutions to this problem?

All the best,

Jessica

Jessica LaBrie (she/her)

Electronic Resources Librarian

Library & Technology Services | Wellesley College

781-283-2102 | jessica.labrie at wellesley.edu<mailto:jessica.labrie at wellesley.edu<mailto:jessica.labrie at wellesley.edu%3cmailto:jessica.labrie at wellesley.edu>>

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Hello,

To test reports of issues offsite, we use SmartBear formerly CrossBrowser Testing.

Jennifer

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I have used some kind of remote desktop to my home computer. Depending on what OS I have at work vs home at the time, I might use Teamviewer, Windows Remote Desktop, Remmina, or some version of VNC. I also use those in the other direction, to get to my office computer to be "on campus" when working from home.

Melissa Belvadi

Collections Librarian

University of Prince Edward Island

mbelvadi at upei.ca<mailto:mbelvadi at upei.ca<mailto:mbelvadi at upei.ca%3cmailto:mbelvadi at upei.ca>>  902-566-0581

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For occasional testing, it has worked for us to disconnect from the wireless service on campus and test using our phones.

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Ann Kucera (she, hers)

Manager of Library Systems

Adobe Digital Lounge Coordinator

Park Library 204A  |  Central Michigan University  |  Mount Pleasant, MI 48859

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Hi all,

We are looking for a solution to mimic being off-campus to test our electronic resources. I currently do this by using a VPN that I pay for myself, which is not ideal. How do other folks do this? Do you use a VPN? If so, is there a specific VPN vendor you?d recommend?

Thanks!

Denis

Denis Shannon

Electronic Resources Librarian

University of Wyoming Libraries

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635G Coe Library

Laramie, WY 82071

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Has anyone thought about a computer with an IP that is outside the IP range you give to providers?  I don?t know how feasible that is, or what the cost might be.  Years ago that solution was suggested by someone in our IT department, but he was talking about assigning that IP to the machine I normally use, which obviously would create more problems than it solved.  Still, a dedicated troubleshooting computer sitting in a corner somewhere might be an option.

Linda

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University of Missouri - Kansas City

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I also struggle with the inappropriateness of using resources not paid for by my university to do my work. I refuse to entangle my phone in work for instance.

Since things like VNC are free, I feel a little better about that, but only a little.  And (long story) my home Internet cost is subsidized by the university so that seems fair.

The obvious way the univ could do this is with a pay-as-you-go smartphone data plan that they pay for, so you could test using the phone company's data network/IP range.

Melissa Belvadi

mbelvadi at upei.ca<mailto:mbelvadi at upei.ca>

Make an appointment: https://mbelvadi.youcanbook.me/

________________________________

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Jennifer, can you tell us more about how you utilize SmartBear??? I am very intrigued!

I can't help but notice that so many of the methods mentioned (which I also use!) involve using our own personal devices, money, and/or off-hours time.

At least for me, it feels hard to articulate to others (i.e., higher ups) why regular access to a device with a non-campus IP address is an ongoing necessity of e-resources management. What if there were a document out there that librarians could refer to or that had example language for explaining to folks who don't do ERM work why it's necessary, and summarizing ways this can be accomplished using the institution's resources? Do folks think that could be useful in getting their institutions to help implement better solutions to this problem?

All the best,

Jessica

Jessica LaBrie (she/her)

Electronic Resources Librarian

Library & Technology Services | Wellesley College

781-283-2102 | jessica.labrie at wellesley.edu<mailto:jessica.labrie at wellesley.edu>

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Hello,

To test reports of issues offsite, we use SmartBear formerly CrossBrowser Testing.

Jennifer

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I have used some kind of remote desktop to my home computer. Depending on what OS I have at work vs home at the time, I might use Teamviewer, Windows Remote Desktop, Remmina, or some version of VNC. I also use those in the other direction, to get to my office computer to be "on campus" when working from home.

Melissa Belvadi

Collections Librarian

University of Prince Edward Island

mbelvadi at upei.ca<mailto:mbelvadi at upei.ca>  902-566-0581

ORCID iD: 0000-0002-4433-0189

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Hi all,

We are looking for a solution to mimic being off-campus to test our electronic resources. I currently do this by using a VPN that I pay for myself, which is not ideal. How do other folks do this? Do you use a VPN? If so, is there a specific VPN vendor you?d recommend?

Thanks!

Denis

Denis Shannon

Electronic Resources Librarian

University of Wyoming Libraries

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635G Coe Library

Laramie, WY 82071

Direct 307-766-5619

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Hi Dennis,

Thanks for your question!

We started using Mozilla VPN this year, which allows for up to five devices-enough to cover our whole staff-and is paid annually. The first year cost us $30 using a promotional code.

Here?s the link for more details: Mozilla VPN<https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/products/vpn/>.

The service is browser-agnostic, so it doesn?t require using Firefox. Previously, we relied on free VPNs available in the Chrome Web Store and similar platforms. However, we found those to be slow, unreliable, and they raised some security concerns.

So far, Mozilla VPN has worked very well for our needs.

Best regards,

Cody W. Hackett

Electronic Resources Librarian

Gladson-Ripley Room 162

University of Arkansas Libraries <https://libraries.uark.edu/>

Schedule a time to meet with me <https://outlook.office.com/bookwithme/user/bec1e09f6fd6498ca6081968a8c5da6d@uark.edu?anonymous&ep=pcard>

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Hi all,

We are looking for a solution to mimic being off-campus to test our electronic resources. I currently do this by using a VPN that I pay for myself, which is not ideal. How do other folks do this? Do you use a VPN? If so, is there a specific VPN vendor you?d recommend?

Thanks!

Denis

Denis Shannon

Electronic Resources Librarian

University of Wyoming Libraries

University of Wyoming<http://www.uwyo.edu/>

635G Coe Library

Laramie, WY 82071

Direct 307-766-5619

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To clarify, this is not necessarily a current problem at my institution.

(But I'm interested in learning about the capabilities of SmartBear and

similar technologies to address this and other tasks!) My institution's

robust telecommuting policy means that I don't currently feel obligated to

use personal resources (beyond standard telework personal resources, e.g.,

Internet access) to test off-campus access because, as others have noted,

even when I'm on campus, there are off-campus colleagues I can call on to

help troubleshoot.

I'll note, I do think that telecommuting is something to include in a

hypothetical document outlining a variety of ways to make sure that ERLs

can reasonably use company resources to test off-campus access! Even prior

to the ongoing pandemic, I remember listserv conversations in which testing

off-campus access was discussed as being something that supports

e-resources librarians' work being suited to a schedule with

telecommuting in it.

All the best,

Jessica

Jessica LaBrie (she/her)

Electronic Resources Librarian

Library & Technology Services | Wellesley College

781-283-2102 | jessica.labrie at wellesley.edu

On Wed, Dec 18, 2024, 10:07 AM Jessica LaBrie <jlabrie2 at wellesley.edu>

wrote:

> Jennifer, can you tell us more about how you utilize SmartBear??? I am

> very intrigued!

>

> I can't help but notice that so many of the methods mentioned (which I

> also use!) involve using our own personal devices, money, and/or off-hours

> time.

>

> At least for me, it feels hard to articulate to others (i.e., higher ups)

> why regular access to a device with a *non*-campus IP address is an

> ongoing necessity of e-resources management. What if there were a document

> out there that librarians could refer to or that had example language for

> explaining to folks who don't do ERM work why it's necessary, and

> summarizing ways this can be accomplished using the *institution's*

> resources? Do folks think that could be useful in getting their

> institutions to help implement better solutions to this problem?

>

> All the best,

> Jessica

>

>

> Jessica LaBrie (she/her)

> Electronic Resources Librarian

> Library & Technology Services | Wellesley College

> 781-283-2102 | jessica.labrie at wellesley.edu

>

>

> On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 9:13?AM Electronic Resources in Libraries

> discussion list via Eril-l <eril-l at lists.eril-l.org> wrote:

>

>> Hello,

>>

>>

>>

>> To test reports of issues offsite, we use SmartBear formerly CrossBrowser

>> Testing.

>>

>>

>>

>> Jennifer

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> *From:* Eril-l <eril-l-bounces at lists.eril-l.org> *On Behalf Of *Electronic

>> Resources in Libraries discussion list via Eril-l

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>> *To:* Electronic Resources in Libraries discussion list via Eril-l <

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>> *Subject:* [EXT] Re: [Eril-l] [External] Testing Access to E-resources

>> from "off-campus"

>>

>>

>>

>> I have used some kind of remote desktop to my home computer. Depending on

>> what OS I have at work vs home at the time, I might use Teamviewer, Windows

>> Remote Desktop, Remmina, or some version of VNC. I also use those in the

>> other direction, to get to my office computer to be "on campus" when

>> working from home.

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> Melissa Belvadi

>>

>> Collections Librarian

>>

>> University of Prince Edward Island

>>

>> mbelvadi at upei.ca  902-566-0581

>>

>> ORCID iD: 0000-0002-4433-0189

>>

>> my public calendar

>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/outlook.office365.com/owa/calendar/0fbab27c909e4493be65313bd66d66b6@upei.ca/5fa60af92c6d451c9ddf90c0bb11e00f15552192987609852692/calendar.html__;!!MkQhnT5yHH0MPvOc00c!TTFmV1e0cooMQxmm8lYdfOaUHHn7mNxeAh8Ayi-m9yP1asJ_RKZbmadsTwo8a36OC2fTxk8CpIUZNJAj3K7O6fe7qgdXUsjM18Ug$>

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>> Make an appointment

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>> YouCanBookMe

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>> My pronouns are ????/???????

>>

>> My emails are sent during the hours that I work and I understand that you

>> will respond during the hours that you work.

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>> Resources in Libraries discussion list via Eril-l <

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>> "off-campus"

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>> For occasional testing, it has worked for us to disconnect from the

>> wireless service on campus and test using our phones.

>>

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>>

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>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> *Ann Kucera *(she, hers)

>>

>> Manager of Library Systems

>>

>> Adobe Digital Lounge Coordinator

>>

>> Park Library 204A  |  Central Michigan University  |  Mount Pleasant, MI

>> 48859

>>

>> P: 989-774-2404  |  E: kucer1a at cmich.edu

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>> Resources in Libraries discussion list via Eril-l <

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>> eril-l at lists.eril-l.org>

>> *Subject:* [External] [Eril-l] Testing Access to E-resources from

>> "off-campus"

>>

>>

>>

>> Hi all,

>>

>>

>>

>> We are looking for a solution to mimic being off-campus to test our

>> electronic resources. I currently do this by using a VPN that I pay for

>> myself, which is not ideal. How do other folks do this? Do you use a VPN?

>> If so, is there a specific VPN vendor you?d recommend?

>>

>>

>>

>> Thanks!

>>

>> Denis

>>

>>

>>

>> *Denis Shannon*

>>

>> Electronic Resources Librarian

>>

>> University of Wyoming Libraries

>>

>> *University of Wyoming*

>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/www.uwyo.edu/__;!!MkQhnT5yHH0MPvOc00c!TTFmV1e0cooMQxmm8lYdfOaUHHn7mNxeAh8Ayi-m9yP1asJ_RKZbmadsTwo8a36OC2fTxk8CpIUZNJAj3K7O6fe7qgdXUp2cnA6I$>

>> 635G Coe Library

>> Laramie, WY 82071

>>

>> Direct 307-766-5619

>> denis.shannon at uwyo.edu ? uwyo.edu/libraries

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We use the free version of Proton VPN as well as disconnecting from the wifi on our phones and using data. There are some reasonably priced options out there if your institution is willing to pay for one.

Thanks!

Kelly

Kelly Shea (she/her)

Electronic Resources Technician

University Libraries | West Chester University

T: 610-436-3066 | kshea at wcupa.edu<mailto:kshea at wcupa.edu> | liberesources at wcupa.edu<mailto:liberesources at wcupa.edu>

library.wcupa.edu

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To: Electronic Resources in Libraries discussion list via Eril-l <eril-l at lists.eril-l.org>

Subject: [Eril-l] Testing Access to E-resources from "off-campus"

Hi all,

We are looking for a solution to mimic being off-campus to test our electronic resources. I currently do this by using a VPN that I pay for myself, which is not ideal. How do other folks do this? Do you use a VPN? If so, is there a specific VPN vendor you?d recommend?

Thanks!

Denis

Denis Shannon

Electronic Resources Librarian

University of Wyoming Libraries

University of Wyoming<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/www.uwyo.edu/__;!!BGRtF3g!ukAWRO2V3o4rj0mk0J7RM0nnTCLmG0BIHYWFocIWkIfhIKqks68CzzGdepFkuAoZHwnbnBAuRxe9P-j_7tU$>

635G Coe Library

Laramie, WY 82071

Direct 307-766-5619

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Hello all,

Is anyone else having issues with getting stuck in an authentication loop

on the Oxford Academic platform? I am getting a login challenge, "Sign in

through your institution," which then either redirects to a directory to

look up my institution, or directly to a challenge screen to prove I'm not

a robot, but I can never get past that screen. We've used EZproxy for a

long time, and the Oxford Academic platform has been fine. So far this has

been a problem with ebooks on Oxford Academic, I haven't tried ejournals

yet, but I wanted to see if anyone is having this issue.

--

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Private Academic Library Network of Indiana

317-565-4560 | lgonzalez at palni.edu | http://www.palni.edu/

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Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2024 11:02:18 -0500

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Subject: [Eril-l] Vendor agreements with AI language in them

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Hello,

I have an agreement to sign with Nature/Springer for journals that include

AI language that wasn't there last year.  It stipulates what our users

cannot do with the information they use from their journals.  I don't have

any control over what our students do with the research they find in our

resources, and I don't want any.

I've asked them to strike that paragraph, but they are pushing back.

What do you think?  What has your library done about these AI statements in

resource agreements?

Thanks for your thoughts,

Jackie

[image: Shenandoah University Circular Logo]

Jackie DeLong (she/her)

Resources Librarian

540-665-4819 | *jdelong at su.edu <jdelong at su.edu>*

Shenandoah University Libraries

<https://libguides.su.edu/UniversityLibraries>

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Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2024 11:16:04 -0500

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We are having the same issue, but with UC Press. I reached out to EBSCO,

but they said that it was a publisher issue, so I've reached out to them.

Here's what we see and it stays stuck in this loop:

[image: Screenshot (44).png]

Best,

Alyshia

On Thu, Dec 19, 2024 at 11:09?AM Electronic Resources in Libraries

discussion list via Eril-l <eril-l at lists.eril-l.org> wrote:

> Hello all,

>

> Is anyone else having issues with getting stuck in an authentication loop

> on the Oxford Academic platform? I am getting a login challenge, "Sign in

> through your institution," which then either redirects to a directory to

> look up my institution, or directly to a challenge screen to prove I'm not

> a robot, but I can never get past that screen. We've used EZproxy for a

> long time, and the Oxford Academic platform has been fine. So far this has

> been a problem with ebooks on Oxford Academic, I haven't tried ejournals

> yet, but I wanted to see if anyone is having this issue.

>

> --

>

> Lisa Gonzalez | PALNI Collections Management Librarian

> Private Academic Library Network of Indiana

>

> 317-565-4560 | lgonzalez at palni.edu | http://www.palni.edu/

>

>

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Electronic Resources Librarian

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Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2024 16:32:25 +0000

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Hi Jackie,

We have had a vendor come back to us with an AI statement or clause in a contract (not remembering the vendor off the top of my head) I would say touch base with your dean, director of libraries or university librarian. Thats what we ended up doing to strike a balance with AI language in contracts. They may have a strategy about how to approach it. Ideally you wouldn't want that kind of restrictive language!  Good luck ?

Take care,

Flynn

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[EXTERNAL]

Hello,

I have an agreement to sign with Nature/Springer for journals that include AI language that wasn't there last year.  It stipulates what our users cannot do with the information they use from their journals.  I don't have any control over what our students do with the research they find in our resources, and I don't want any.

I've asked them to strike that paragraph, but they are pushing back.

What do you think?  What has your library done about these AI statements in resource agreements?

Thanks for your thoughts,

Jackie

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Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2024 16:33:03 +0000

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Hi Lisa,

We are able to access Oxford Academic ebooks both on and off campus - we also use EZProxy.

Good luck!  Theresa

Theresa Arndt

Dickinson College Library

Carlisle, PA

arndtt at dickinson.edu

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Hello all,

Is anyone else having issues with getting stuck in an authentication loop on the Oxford Academic platform? I am getting a login challenge, "Sign in through your institution," which then either redirects to a directory to look up my institution, or directly to a challenge screen to prove I'm not a robot, but I can never get past that screen. We've used EZproxy for a long time, and the Oxford Academic platform has been fine. So far this has been a problem with ebooks on Oxford Academic, I haven't tried ejournals yet, but I wanted to see if anyone is having this issue.

--

Lisa Gonzalez | PALNI Collections Management Librarian

Private Academic Library Network of Indiana

317-565-4560 | lgonzalez at palni.edu<mailto:lgonzalez at palni.edu> | http://www.palni.edu/<http://www.palni.edu/>

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Message: 9

Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2024 16:49:00 +0000

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Subject: Re: [Eril-l] [External]  Oxford Cloudflare problems?

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We had issues with any publishers who use Cloudflare via ezproxy.  The solution seems to be to ask the publisher to add your ezproxy IP address to the cloudflare site, even if your ezproxy is within the campus IP range that  you already provided to the publisher.

OCLC support also said that you need to add your proxy?ed domains to cloudflare, but we have found that to be unnecessary.

I hope this helps.

-Bin

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Date: Thursday, December 19, 2024 at 8:31?AM

To: Electronic Resources in Libraries discussion list <eril-l at lists.eril-l.org>

Subject: Re: [Eril-l] [External] Oxford Cloudflare problems?

We are having the same issue, but with UC Press. I reached out to EBSCO, but they said that it was a publisher issue, so I've reached out to them. Here's what we see and it stays stuck in this loop:

[cid:ii_m4viw4ff0]

Best,

Alyshia

On Thu, Dec 19, 2024 at 11:09?AM Electronic Resources in Libraries discussion list via Eril-l <eril-l at lists.eril-l.org<mailto:eril-l at lists.eril-l.org>> wrote:

Hello all,

Is anyone else having issues with getting stuck in an authentication loop on the Oxford Academic platform? I am getting a login challenge, "Sign in through your institution," which then either redirects to a directory to look up my institution, or directly to a challenge screen to prove I'm not a robot, but I can never get past that screen. We've used EZproxy for a long time, and the Oxford Academic platform has been fine. So far this has been a problem with ebooks on Oxford Academic, I haven't tried ejournals yet, but I wanted to see if anyone is having this issue.

--

Lisa Gonzalez | PALNI Collections Management Librarian

Private Academic Library Network of Indiana

317-565-4560 | lgonzalez at palni.edu<mailto:lgonzalez at palni.edu> | http://www.palni.edu/<http://www.palni.edu/>

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Electronic Resources Librarian

Georgia Southern University Libraries

Office: (912) 344-3016

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My working hours may look different from yours. Please do not feel obligated to respond outside your normal schedule.

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Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2024 08:52:49 -0800

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Yes, the UC Press screen is the same one I get stuck in for Oxford. Another

suggestion I got was to check my IP addresses on IPRegistry, so I will try

that next.

On Thu, Dec 19, 2024 at 8:30?AM Electronic Resources in Libraries

discussion list via Eril-l <eril-l at lists.eril-l.org> wrote:

> We are having the same issue, but with UC Press. I reached out to EBSCO,

> but they said that it was a publisher issue, so I've reached out to them.

> Here's what we see and it stays stuck in this loop:

>

> [image: Screenshot (44).png]

>

>

> Best,

> Alyshia

>

> On Thu, Dec 19, 2024 at 11:09?AM Electronic Resources in Libraries

> discussion list via Eril-l <eril-l at lists.eril-l.org> wrote:

>

>> Hello all,

>>

>> Is anyone else having issues with getting stuck in an authentication loop

>> on the Oxford Academic platform? I am getting a login challenge, "Sign in

>> through your institution," which then either redirects to a directory to

>> look up my institution, or directly to a challenge screen to prove I'm not

>> a robot, but I can never get past that screen. We've used EZproxy for a

>> long time, and the Oxford Academic platform has been fine. So far this has

>> been a problem with ebooks on Oxford Academic, I haven't tried ejournals

>> yet, but I wanted to see if anyone is having this issue.

>>

>> --

>>

>> Lisa Gonzalez | PALNI Collections Management Librarian

>> Private Academic Library Network of Indiana

>>

>> 317-565-4560 | lgonzalez at palni.edu | http://www.palni.edu/

>>

>>

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>> http://lists.eril-l.org/listinfo.cgi/eril-l-eril-l.org

>>

>

>

> --

> *Alyshia Bagley*

> *she/her/hers*

> Electronic Resources Librarian

> Georgia Southern University Libraries

> Office: (912) 344-3016

> abagley at georgiasouthern.edu

> *My working hours may look different from yours. Please do not feel

> obligated to respond outside your normal schedule.*

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Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2024 09:33:00 -0800

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We just started having similar issues as well.

Bill Kelm

On Thu, Dec 19, 2024 at 8:10?AM Electronic Resources in Libraries

discussion list via Eril-l <eril-l at lists.eril-l.org> wrote:

> Hello all,

>

> Is anyone else having issues with getting stuck in an authentication loop

> on the Oxford Academic platform? I am getting a login challenge, "Sign in

> through your institution," which then either redirects to a directory to

> look up my institution, or directly to a challenge screen to prove I'm not

> a robot, but I can never get past that screen. We've used EZproxy for a

> long time, and the Oxford Academic platform has been fine. So far this has

> been a problem with ebooks on Oxford Academic, I haven't tried ejournals

> yet, but I wanted to see if anyone is having this issue.

>

> --

>

> Lisa Gonzalez | PALNI Collections Management Librarian

> Private Academic Library Network of Indiana

>

> 317-565-4560 | lgonzalez at palni.edu | http://www.palni.edu/

>

>

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Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2024 17:49:28 +0000

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Hi Jackie,

There was a discussion on AI clauses on the liblicense listserv where Rachel Samberg from University of California posted a very helpful document, UC?s benchmark<https://docs.google.com/document/d/12ENn4wDHXsuZpJyIYcrcqrrGJIsIT28ImX0AYEmrhGU/edit?usp=sharing> yet evolving licensing language<https://docs.google.com/document/d/12ENn4wDHXsuZpJyIYcrcqrrGJIsIT28ImX0AYEmrhGU/edit?usp=sharing>.

This document guided our negotiations with vendors that added AI clauses to their licenses for 2025.  Our university Legal Counsel advised us throughout the process as it took some time and several rounds of revisions to reach a consensus.

Andrea

ANDREA IMRE

Electronic Resources and Interim Collections Librarian

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Hi Jackie,

We have had a vendor come back to us with an AI statement or clause in a contract (not remembering the vendor off the top of my head) I would say touch base with your dean, director of libraries or university librarian. Thats what we ended up doing to strike a balance with AI language in contracts. They may have a strategy about how to approach it. Ideally you wouldn't want that kind of restrictive language!  Good luck ?

Take care,

Flynn

________________________________

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Subject: [Eril-l] Vendor agreements with AI language in them

[EXTERNAL]

Hello,

I have an agreement to sign with Nature/Springer for journals that include AI language that wasn't there last year.  It stipulates what our users cannot do with the information they use from their journals.  I don't have any control over what our students do with the research they find in our resources, and I don't want any.

I've asked them to strike that paragraph, but they are pushing back.

What do you think?  What has your library done about these AI statements in resource agreements?

Thanks for your thoughts,

Jackie

[Shenandoah University Circular Logo]

Jackie DeLong (she/her)

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