[Eril-l] Access problems with Ad$pender

Wed Jun 15 06:24:47 PDT 2022

I am not having any issues accessing Ad$pender, remotely via EZproxy.

Ted

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   1. Access problems with Ad$pender (Stephen Francoeur)
   2. Re: Access problems with Ad$pender (Sally J. Lockwood)
   3. Re: Access problems with Ad$pender (Stephen Francoeur)
   4. RPLTS IG discussion at ALA (Fry, Amy)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2022 10:07:51 -0400
From: Stephen Francoeur <stephen.francoeur at gmail.com>
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I'm playing the "it's you, not us" game with Kantar Media right now as I try to figure out our access problems with the Ad$pender database. For a few days, we were seeing this error message from the vendor as soon as we got past our EZproxy authentication page:

"Too many users from your office or company are logged in right now. Please try again later."

This error message is itself an error, as the vendor confirmed that no one else from our school was logged into the database when I was seeing the error message.

After showing the vendor via screensharing that error message, their IT people are now saying we should check with our campus IT folks to see if there have been any changes or reasons why this happening. Today, that error message now says "Not authorized." I suspect that the problem is on their end but want to see if anyone else is able to access Ad$pender right now.

Thanks for any insights you can offer.

Stephen Francoeur
UX Librarian
Baruch College
New York, NY
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Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2022 14:18:02 +0000
From: "Sally J. Lockwood" <sjl8 at cornell.edu>
To: Stephen Francoeur <stephen.francoeur at gmail.com>,
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We don?t subscribe to AdSpender anymore, but I have notes from the vendor back in 2018 that may help.  Have you tried different browsers?  Or an earlier version of the browser you?re using now?

We do recommend that the user logs out when they are finished with their session, so it does not block other users from accessing the application. Approximately after 30 minutes it will automatically logout if inactive.

The Run Error message may have been a cookie issue. If you are using PC then the FireFox, & Chrome web browsers should be fine. From a Mac, we recommend FireFox. Do not use Safari if accessing the application on a Mac. It is not compatible.

Kind regards,
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Sally Lockwood
E-Resources Specialist
Working from home
Cornell University
Ithaca, NY 14853

From: Eril-l <eril-l-bounces at lists.eril-l.org> On Behalf Of Stephen Francoeur
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2022 10:08 AM
To: eril-l at lists.eril-l.org
Subject: [Eril-l] Access problems with Ad$pender

I'm playing the "it's you, not us" game with Kantar Media right now as I try to figure out our access problems with the Ad$pender database. For a few days, we were seeing this error message from the vendor as soon as we got past our EZproxy authentication page:

"Too many users from your office or company are logged in right now. Please try again later."

This error message is itself an error, as the vendor confirmed that no one else from our school was logged into the database when I was seeing the error message.

After showing the vendor via screensharing that error message, their IT people are now saying we should check with our campus IT folks to see if there have been any changes or reasons why this happening. Today, that error message now says "Not authorized." I suspect that the problem is on their end but want to see if anyone else is able to access Ad$pender right now.

Thanks for any insights you can offer.

Stephen Francoeur
UX Librarian
Baruch College
New York, NY
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2022 10:37:53 -0400
From: Stephen Francoeur <stephen.francoeur at gmail.com>
To: "Sally J. Lockwood" <sjl8 at cornell.edu>
Cc: "eril-l at lists.eril-l.org" <eril-l at lists.eril-l.org>
Subject: Re: [Eril-l] Access problems with Ad$pender
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Hi Sally,

Thanks for your notes. Yes, we've tried different browsers and earlier versions of those browsers.

Stephen

On Tue, Jun 14, 2022 at 10:18 AM Sally J. Lockwood <sjl8 at cornell.edu> wrote:

> We don?t subscribe to AdSpender anymore, but I have notes from the 
> vendor back in 2018 that may help.  Have you tried different browsers?  
> Or an earlier version of the browser you?re using now?
>
>
>
> *We do recommend that the user logs out when they are finished with 
> their session, so it does not block other users from accessing the application.
> Approximately after 30 minutes it will automatically logout if 
> inactive.*
>
>
>
> *The Run Error message may have been a cookie issue. If you are using 
> PC then the FireFox, & Chrome web browsers should be fine. From a Mac, 
> we recommend FireFox. Do not use Safari if accessing the application on a Mac.
> It is not compatible.*
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Sally Lockwood
>
> E-Resources Specialist
>
> Working from home
>
> Cornell University
>
> Ithaca, NY 14853
>
>
>
> *From:* Eril-l <eril-l-bounces at lists.eril-l.org> *On Behalf Of 
> *Stephen Francoeur
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 14, 2022 10:08 AM
> *To:* eril-l at lists.eril-l.org
> *Subject:* [Eril-l] Access problems with Ad$pender
>
>
>
> I'm playing the "it's you, not us" game with Kantar Media right now as 
> I try to figure out our access problems with the Ad$pender database. 
> For a few days, we were seeing this error message from the vendor as 
> soon as we got past our EZproxy authentication page:
>
>
>
> "Too many users from your office or company are logged in right now.
> Please try again later."
>
>
>
> This error message is itself an error, as the vendor confirmed that no 
> one else from our school was logged into the database when I was 
> seeing the error message.
>
>
>
> After showing the vendor via screensharing that error message, their 
> IT people are now saying we should check with our campus IT folks to 
> see if there have been any changes or reasons why this happening. 
> Today, that error message now says "Not authorized." I suspect that 
> the problem is on their end but want to see if anyone else is able to 
> access Ad$pender right now.
>
>
>
> Thanks for any insights you can offer.
>
>
>
> Stephen Francoeur
>
> UX Librarian
>
> Baruch College
> New York, NY
>
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Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2022 14:49:21 +0000
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You will be able to join one of the face-to-face round table discussions to share your thoughts, opinions and ideas.

Technical Services Advocacy Outside of Tech Services Discussion facilitator: Amanda Ros, Coordinator of Adaptive Cataloging & Resource Management, Texas A&M University

In today's society, it's more important than ever to advocate for our collections, our budgets, and our staff. Many of us self-identify as introverts and may not be comfortable advocating for what our departments need. Let's discuss best practices for advocating for our value and the value of our collections.

Exploring Normalcy in Technical Services Discussion facilitator: Jennifer M. Eustis, Metadata Librarian, University of Massachusetts Amherst

When we came back to campus at my institution, the catch phrase used by administration both in the libraries and the university level was a return to normal. Normal operations. Normal meetings. Normal interactions. Having worked in technical services for over 10 years, my experience has been anything but normal. During this time, I?ve been in departments that have been understaffed,  in the process of reimagining staff, migrating, reorganizing, branching out to digital repositories, consulting, or moving to a new description standard. We have probably all been part of BIBFRAME conversations for this entire time. I remember webinars on doing more with less which morphed into the less with less. There were workshops on finding efficiencies to automate to do more with less. After the pandemic and hearing this mantra of ?return to normal?, I increasingly began to question what normal means in technical services. What are normal operations, meetings, and interactions? This round table top  ic proposes to discuss what normal has meant for technical services and explore the implications of that on operations, staffing, or hiring in the future.

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Tech Services is often relegated to the basement.  Telling our story and building support for what we do and the contributions we make to our libraries is imperative.  Technical Service librarians contribute to our institutions, to our profession, and are subject matter experts in many fields. Communicating our accomplishments and our needs is something we could all do better.

TS Retreat: Professional Development, Wellness, and Team Building for Technical Services Discussion facilitator: Cara Calabrese, Acquisitions & Access Librarian, Miami University

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