[Eril-l] Privacy and New EBSCO personal login feature - Google login

Wed Oct 31 17:29:58 PDT 2018

Thanks for clarifying that it is for personalization features/functions and not authentication. That at least eliminates the concern that the library is requiring this sort of privacy divestment.

I'm sure you are right students will find it convenient. I think for me the question is whether it is ethical to offer (see NISO Principles). Only if it is ethical to offer, do I think we should then decide if it is convenient, useful, etc.

My extra 2 cents.

Lisa

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Lisa Janicke Hinchliffe
Professor/ Coordinator for Information Literacy Services and Instruction
University Library, University of Illinois, 1408 West Gregory Drive, Urbana, Illinois 61801
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From: Neyer, Linda S <lneyer at bloomu.edu>
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Subject: RE: [Eril-l] Privacy and New EBSCO personal login feature - Google login

Hi Lisa,

We’ve been testing it a bit, and the Google sign-on does not allow users to remotely authenticate to databases -- they can only sign in to their MyEBSCOhost ‘shopping cart’ where they save searches, alerts, articles, etc. It’s a two-step process: first, authenticate (for us, using EZproxy), second, log into your personal MyEBSCOhost account using either the login you create yourself or using your Google sign-on.

It’s still a little buggy – doesn’t seem to work consistently with all browsers. Also, if a user has already created an account, logging in with their Google sign-on doesn’t connect them to that account, it creates a new account.

On principle I’m not comfortable with all the data big tech collects on us and won’t be using the sign-on myself, except for demo purposes. However, our students will likely view it as a convenience to help them track their research more easily. If it helps them with citing their sources properly, then I think it will be useful. Of course, I may be missing something here. If so, maybe others can shed more light on the topic.

Cheers,

-Linda

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Linda Neyer, Associate Professor, MLS|MS

Research & Instruction Librarian | Database Coordinator
Andruss Library 222

Bloomsburg University of Pennsylvania

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Subject: Re: [Eril-l] Privacy and New EBSCO personal login feature - Google login

You’re right.  I was just knee-jerk reacting to the latest “feature” on EBSCO’s site that won’t work and our  patrons will wonder why, but maybe we can have a principled statement why we choose not to support it…

CH

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Subject: Privacy and New EBSCO personal login feature - Google login

I’ve changed the subject line because I’m going to shift the topic a bit. Am I the only librarian who is a bit alarmed at the idea of authenticating to a library resource through Google and the privacy (like there is none?) implications? Someone please tell me I’m misunderstanding and explain that this is actually in keeping with the NISO Privacy Principles or something?

Lisa

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Professor/ Coordinator for Information Literacy Services and Instruction, University Library

Affiliate Faculty, School of Information Sciences

University of Illinois, 1408 West Gregory Drive, Urbana, Illinois 61801

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From: Eril-l [mailto:eril-l-bounces at lists.eril-l.org] On Behalf Of Divan, Linda A
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Subject: Re: [Eril-l] New EBSCO personal login feature - Google login - and WAM

We tried the Google authentication yesterday on-campus (not using EZproxy) in Firefox and Chrome and it worked fine.

After seeing about problems with remote access, I used VPN to go off-campus (so we first authenticated through EZproxy to get to EBSCO ebooks) and in Firefox got a blank screen, in Chrome an error message.

Linda Divan
Library Systems Co-ordinator
Centennial Library
Cedarville University
251 N. Main St.
Cedarville, OH  45314

937-766-7843
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On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 3:20 PM, Harper, Cynthia <charper at vts.edu<mailto:charper at vts.edu>> wrote:

So, after all our work making sure users can create personal accounts on EBSCO ebooks when we’re using WAM, we now see that they’ve enabled Google authentication.  And of course, it does not work with WAM (redirecting host site 0-auth-ebsco-zone.librarycatalog.vts.edu<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__0-2Dauth-2Debsco-2Dzone.librarycatalog.vts.edu&d=DwMGaQ&c=HS1CjnFyfzCL6mp0nkGYYw&r=x3WD-kxlrre-X6msdfrKCcl0xH5zliYcTd9f4iDeT4U&m=8myANw1ux_2fBfXLi6SVkpQ9YdtbvoPlLzNUxLVDhJo&s=0xhDkobV63Q25JfwIeKLpJVmVxTGufkk2SoP7j468M0&e=> not recognized.)  So I’m wondering if I turn off the WAM proxying of auth.ebsco.zone would Google authentication work????  I’ll ask EBSCO, but I thought I’d ask if anyone else has had a chance to look at this???

Cindy Harper

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