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<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">Thanks for clarifying that it is for personalization features/functions and not authentication. That at least eliminates the concern that the library is requiring this sort of privacy divestment. </p>
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<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">I'm sure you are right students will find it convenient. I think for me the question is whether it is ethical to offer (see NISO Principles). Only if it is ethical to offer, do I think we should then decide if it is convenient,
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<b>To:</b> Harper, Cynthia; Hinchliffe, Lisa W; Divan, Linda A<br>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#1F497D">Hi Lisa,
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<b><i>not</i></b> allow users to remotely authenticate to databases -- they can only sign in to their MyEBSCOhost ‘shopping cart’ where they save searches, alerts, articles, etc. It’s a two-step process: first, authenticate (for us, using EZproxy), second,
log into your personal MyEBSCOhost account using either the login you create yourself or using your Google sign-on.
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#1F497D">It’s still a little buggy – doesn’t seem to work consistently with all browsers. Also, if a user has already created an account, logging in with their Google
sign-on doesn’t connect them to that account, it creates a new account.</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#1F497D">On principle I’m not comfortable with all the data big tech collects on us and won’t be using the sign-on myself, except for demo purposes. However, our students
will likely view it as a convenience to help them track their research more easily. If it helps them with citing their sources properly, then I think it will be useful. Of course, I may be missing something here. If so, maybe others can shed more light on
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#1F497D">Cheers,</span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#1F497D">-Linda</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black">Linda Neyer, Associate Professor, MLS|MS</span><span style="color:black"></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Harper, Cynthia<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 31, 2018 4:29 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Hinchliffe, Lisa W <ljanicke@illinois.edu>; Divan, Linda A <divanl@cedarville.edu><br>
<b>Cc:</b> eril-l (eril-l@lists.eril-l.org) <eril-l@lists.eril-l.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Eril-l] Privacy and New EBSCO personal login feature - Google login</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">You’re right. I was just knee-jerk reacting to the latest “feature” on EBSCO’s site that won’t work and our patrons will wonder why, but maybe we can have a principled
statement why we choose not to support it…</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Hinchliffe, Lisa W <</span><a href="mailto:ljanicke@illinois.edu" id="LPlnk201252" class="OWAAutoLink" previewremoved="true"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">ljanicke@illinois.edu</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 31, 2018 3:47 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Divan, Linda A <</span><a href="mailto:divanl@cedarville.edu" id="LPlnk776616" class="OWAAutoLink" previewremoved="true"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">divanl@cedarville.edu</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">>;
Harper, Cynthia <</span><a href="mailto:charper@vts.edu" id="LPlnk602867" class="OWAAutoLink" previewremoved="true"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">charper@vts.edu</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">><br>
<b>Cc:</b> eril-l (</span><a href="mailto:eril-l@lists.eril-l.org" id="LPlnk109907" class="OWAAutoLink" previewremoved="true"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">eril-l@lists.eril-l.org</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">)
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<b>Subject:</b> Privacy and New EBSCO personal login feature - Google login </span>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#1F497D">I’ve changed the subject line because I’m going to shift the topic a bit. Am I the only librarian who is a bit alarmed at the idea of authenticating to a library resource through
Google and the privacy (like there is none?) implications? Someone please tell me I’m misunderstanding and explain that this is actually in keeping with the NISO Privacy Principles or something?
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#2F5496">Professor/ Coordinator for Information Literacy Services and Instruction, University Library</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Eril-l [</span><a href="mailto:eril-l-bounces@lists.eril-l.org" id="LPlnk202730" class="OWAAutoLink" previewremoved="true"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">mailto:eril-l-bounces@lists.eril-l.org</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Divan, Linda A<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 31, 2018 2:30 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Harper, Cynthia <</span><a href="mailto:charper@vts.edu" id="LPlnk437669" class="OWAAutoLink" previewremoved="true"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">charper@vts.edu</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">><br>
<b>Cc:</b> eril-l (</span><a href="mailto:eril-l@lists.eril-l.org" id="LPlnk50382" class="OWAAutoLink" previewremoved="true"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">eril-l@lists.eril-l.org</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">)
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Eril-l] New EBSCO personal login feature - Google login - and WAM</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:black">We tried the Google authentication yesterday on-campus (not using EZproxy) in Firefox and Chrome and it worked fine. </span></p>
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Centennial Library<br>
Cedarville University<br>
251 N. Main St.<br>
Cedarville, OH 45314<br>
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937-766-7843<br>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 3:20 PM, Harper, Cynthia <<a href="mailto:charper@vts.edu" target="_blank" id="LPlnk625791" class="OWAAutoLink" previewremoved="true">charper@vts.edu</a>> wrote:</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal" style="">So, after all our work making sure users can create personal accounts on EBSCO ebooks when we’re using WAM, we now see that they’ve enabled Google authentication. And of course, it does not work with WAM (redirecting host site
<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__0-2Dauth-2Debsco-2Dzone.librarycatalog.vts.edu&d=DwMGaQ&c=HS1CjnFyfzCL6mp0nkGYYw&r=x3WD-kxlrre-X6msdfrKCcl0xH5zliYcTd9f4iDeT4U&m=8myANw1ux_2fBfXLi6SVkpQ9YdtbvoPlLzNUxLVDhJo&s=0xhDkobV63Q25JfwIeKLpJVmVxTGufkk2SoP7j468M0&e=" target="_blank" id="LPlnk571213" class="OWAAutoLink" previewremoved="true">
0-auth-ebsco-zone.librarycatalog.vts.edu</a> not recognized.) So I’m wondering if I turn off the WAM proxying of auth.ebsco.zone would Google authentication work???? I’ll ask EBSCO, but I thought I’d ask if anyone else has had a chance to look at this???</p>
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