[Eril-l] Primo and "classic catalog"?

Wiseman, David dcwiseman at roanoke.edu
Thu Aug 2 08:53:00 PDT 2018

Retirement has solved some of those issues :) We have had a discovery layer since 2009 and as our primary interface since 2011 which contained the OPAC holdings, so that environment is not too much of a shock. There was some grumbling, but most known-item searches show up as expected in the new interface. We have had to make some adjustments to assure that this is the case, but by and large, the new system has fared pretty well. We did a formal (but unpublished) usability study this past spring and there was no real pining for the old system from faculty. The few students who remember the old system expressed relief that it has passed on.
Much of the positivity about the new system is not so much about the searching/browsing per se, but rather about the ancillary functions, saving records, exporting them, improved off-campus access, device responsiveness, and so forth. These aspects of the overall user experience count too.


From: Eril-l <eril-l-bounces at lists.eril-l.org> On Behalf Of Diane Westerfield
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We are currently doing a Needs Assessment as part of an ILS (and potential discovery layer) selection project.

Did you encounter any resistance to losing the classic OPAC? We are facing the possibility of not having an OPAC and I know it will cause some unhappiness. One reason being, they want to be able to find a known book or film quickly, rather than getting a million results as if you were searching Google.

In looking at DU's installation of Alma/Primo, it seems like you can find a known item fairly quickly, but the annoyance is seeing all the other results, when you would have gotten that one known hit in the OPAC. It looks like DU scoped "Catalog" to be the items you would find in a traditional OAPC, but you can't easily do a title search from their general search.  https://library.du.edu/  One has to go to Advanced Search and fiddle around for an exact title search.

On our Millennium OPAC, you can hit the drop down menu from the library front page and specify title. See https://www.coloradocollege.edu/library/  Tiger catalog is stuck in the 1990s, but it's a predictable workhorse.

The issue will be convincing everybody that we need to move with the times and accommodate the patrons, especially students who have grown up with Google. (that is, if we end up going the Alma/Primo route. It looks to me like if you go with Sierra as an ILS, you can still have a Millennium-esque OPAC while opting for Encore or another discovery layer).


Diane Westerfield, Electronic Resources & Serials Librarian
Tutt Library, Colorado College
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From: Eril-l [mailto:eril-l-bounces at lists.eril-l.org] On Behalf Of Wiseman, David
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Subject: Re: [Eril-l] Primo and "classic catalog"?

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We migrated from a Millennium/EDS set-up to Alma/Primo last year. We did set up a Primo scope that indexes our physical holdings (similar to the old OPAC if you use a browse). Honestly, getting rid of the "looking in two places to find your stuff" has been one of the most beneficial aspects of the migration for the vast majority of our patrons.


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Subject: Re: [Eril-l] Primo and "classic catalog"?

Hi, Courtney!

Ditto Tulane's comment.  This is how we are set up at the University of Kansas http://lib.ku.edu<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flib.ku.edu&data=02%7C01%7Cdwesterfield%40coloradocollege.edu%7Cb740041a4d904cfe31d608d5f882aa48%7Ccfc7b13c12964387b3085de08fd13c99%7C1%7C0%7C636688162443273826&sdata=7M8jhLamjtNMer103RBKK5ZnApEXn0ecenOt8k%2FQuYc%3D&reserved=0>  Copying our Voyager/Primo expert in case there's more to it.

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Subject: [Eril-l] FW: Primo and "classic catalog"?

Hi Courtney,

The Tulane library has a classic catalog interface with Voyager and use Primo for discovery - http://library.tulane.edu/<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flibrary.tulane.edu%2F&data=02%7C01%7Cdwesterfield%40coloradocollege.edu%7Cb740041a4d904cfe31d608d5f882aa48%7Ccfc7b13c12964387b3085de08fd13c99%7C1%7C0%7C636688162443283838&sdata=SEalfjnpIc7pHBTLFzlpL9z7X1y0lLKKJQ8QJRd9BH8%3D&reserved=0>.  With Alma, there is no classic catalog interface, so if you want one you will have to build it:)


Sally Krash
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UMass Amherst Libraries
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From: Eril-l [mailto:eril-l-bounces at lists.eril-l.org] On Behalf Of Courtney McAllister
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Subject: [Eril-l] Primo and "classic catalog"?

Good evening,

At my library, we are in the early stages of preparing for a migration to Alma/Primo. Currently, we have Millennium and maintain both EDS and a "classic catalog" for discovery. Based on what I have heard/read, it sounds like the concept of a "classic catalog" is fairly incompatible with Primo.

In response to a question from my director, I'm wondering if any Primo libraries out there also maintain a traditional OPAC or "classic catalog"?

Thank you in advance for any information!



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