[Eril-l] [FORGED] Cambridge adopted the same bad platform as Taylor & Francis?

Wed Sep 21 09:08:24 PDT 2016

I hate to be obvious, but try a different web browser?  I am seeing the
entire list scrollable down without clicking on anything,
or at least what I think is the entire list as it does look like all 360
titles to me, and is definitely far
more titles than what we currently subscribe to.

Melissa

On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 4:41 PM, Athena Hoeppner <athena at ucf.edu> wrote:

> I see the result as Kim describes it. No A-Z list, just a search form. –
> Athena
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> *From:* Eril-l [mailto:eril-l-bounces at lists.eril-l.org] *On Behalf Of *Kimberly
> Montgomery
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 20, 2016 3:34 PM
> *To:* Susan Henthorn <Susan_Henthorn at berea.edu>; Jennifer Sauer <
> jsauer at fhsu.edu>; Tristan C Collier <tcollier at cambridge.org>;
> eril-l at lists.eril-l.org
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Eril-l] [FORGED] Cambridge adopted the same bad platform
> as Taylor & Francis?
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>
> Susan,
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>
> I have tried clicking on the second box and nothing happens.  I usually
> use Firefox, so I tried IE and had the same results.  I tried again in
> Firefox and got a Page not found message.  The form is back again, but
> clicking on All titles does nothing.  I even tried clearing my cache, but
> no luck.
>
>
>
> If this is not happening to others, then probably this should go offlist.
>
>
>
> Kimberly Montgomery
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> Kimberly.Montgomery at ucf.edu
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> *From:* Susan Henthorn [mailto:Susan_Henthorn at berea.edu
> <Susan_Henthorn at berea.edu>]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 20, 2016 3:30 PM
> *To:* Jennifer Sauer <jsauer at fhsu.edu>; Kimberly Montgomery <
> Kimberly.Montgomery at ucf.edu>; Tristan C Collier <tcollier at cambridge.org>;
> eril-l at lists.eril-l.org
> *Subject:* RE: [Eril-l] [FORGED] Cambridge adopted the same bad platform
> as Taylor & Francis?
>
>
>
> Kimberly,
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>
>
> If you are testing this on a mobile device, you may have to scroll a bit
> to get to the list.
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>
> Like Jennifer, I had no difficulty with the link with any device (phone,
> tablet, or laptop/desktop) – the list is just more obvious when using a
> laptop or desktop computer.
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> Susan
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> *From:* Eril-l [mailto:eril-l-bounces at lists.eril-l.org
> <eril-l-bounces at lists.eril-l.org>] *On Behalf Of *Jennifer Sauer
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 20, 2016 3:23 PM
> *To:* Kimberly Montgomery <Kimberly.Montgomery at ucf.edu>; Tristan C
> Collier <tcollier at cambridge.org>; eril-l at lists.eril-l.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Eril-l] [FORGED] Cambridge adopted the same bad platform
> as Taylor & Francis?
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>
> Kimberly,
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>
> I tried the link you posted and it did pull up a full alphabetical listing
> with search filters for titles subjects and access types. Hmmmm. The site
> is consistently asking me to accept cookies – but even so, the list loaded
> before I accepted.
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>
> Curious.
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>
> Jennifer
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> *From:* Eril-l [mailto:eril-l-bounces at lists.eril-l.org
> <eril-l-bounces at lists.eril-l.org>] *On Behalf Of *Kimberly Montgomery
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 20, 2016 2:20 PM
> *To:* Tristan C Collier <tcollier at cambridge.org>; eril-l at lists.eril-l.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Eril-l] [FORGED] Cambridge adopted the same bad platform
> as Taylor & Francis?
>
>
>
> Tristan,
>
>
>
> When I follow the link you gave below (https://www.cambridge.org/
> core/what-we-publish/journals ), I do not see an A-Z journals listing.  I
> see only a search box.  That doesn't help me find out which journals are
> available.  It means I already have to know what the titles are to see them.
>
>
>
> Is there a trick to displaying the list?
>
>
>
> Kimberly Montgomery
>
> Electronic Resources Cataloger Librarian
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> Cataloging Services Department
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> University of central Florida Libraries
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> Kimberly.Montgomery at ucf.edu
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> *From:* Eril-l [mailto:eril-l-bounces at lists.eril-l.org
> <eril-l-bounces at lists.eril-l.org>] *On Behalf Of *Tristan C Collier
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 20, 2016 11:06 AM
> *To:* eril-l at lists.eril-l.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Eril-l] [FORGED] Cambridge adopted the same bad platform
> as Taylor & Francis?
>
>
>
> Dear All,
>
>
>
> Thanks for your feedback about Cambridge Core. This is very valuable for
> us in terms of informing platform development going forwards.
>
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>
> *Design*
>
> We’re sorry that Diane doesn’t like the design of the platform. Bob
> Pearson is correct in saying that the T&F platform is built on Atypon
> technology, whereas Cambridge Core is entirely bespoke and built in-house.
> So there is no common technology or shared design between the two
> platforms.  In response to Steve Oberg, yes Cambridge Core is entirely
> created by CUP, though we did work with two or three partners on areas like
> usage reporting and web analytics. Apologies if this wasn’t clear enough in
> my response to LibLicense-L.
>
>
>
> Cambridge Core was developed after exhaustive user research, especially
> amongst academic researchers, but also librarians, authors and society
> publishers, so there may have been similar requests made by researchers
> when T&F designed their platform.  Of course, not everyone is going to
> agree, even within these groups, on their preferred solutions, but we have
> tried to please as many people as possible.
>
>
>
> Yes Cambridge Core is ‘responsive’, or designed to work on all devices.
> As several have commented, this is imperative due to the proliferation of
> non-desktop technology and the need to provide a good experience on
> handheld devices.
>
>
>
> *A-Z journals listing*
>
> This is available here: https://www.cambridge.org/
> core/what-we-publish/journals We are currently consulting on whether we
> can improve on the signposting to get people to this.
>
>
>
> *Content I have access to*
>
> Thanks Leslie for your approval for our check box for “only search content
> I have access to”.  We discussed this option at great length with a panel
> of librarians who tested Cambridge Core at Charleston last year and many
> other librarians globally.  We are looking to improve the display of what
> users have access to – we are considering how to show access symbols on the
> all issues page as well as at the article/journal page/chapter/book levels.
>
>
>
> *Advanced Search*
>
> Diane you also mentioned that Advanced Search does not feature. In some
> ways, we feel that Cambridge Core is an example of less is more in this
> regard.  The search function on Cambridge Core is far more powerful than
> the search on our previous platforms and the faceting options on the left
> hand side enable accurate pinpointing of content in a way that was never
> possible across the previous 6 platforms. So in fact the Cambridge Core
> search is far smarter than the Advanced Search on the old systems. We have
> tried to provide a solution that is of maximum benefit to our readers and
> libraries globally, but of course we are always hoping to improve this if
> we receive feedback and we will continue to review our search solution.
>
>
>
> Of course, most readers search in library systems and internet search
> engines, not on publisher platforms.
>
>
>
> *Future development*
>
> The good news is that Cambridge Core has been built on new, flexible
> technology, which will enable us to make improvements more quickly than was
> possible with our previous platforms.
>
>
>
> I hope this goes some way towards explaining the development work behind
> Cambridge Core.  Once again, thanks for all your input and please let us
> know if you have further questions or comments.
>
>
>
> Best wishes
>
> Tristan
>
>
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> __________________________________________
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> Tristan Collier
>
> Senior Library Marketing Manager,
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> Institutional Marketing
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> *From:* Bob Pearson <b.pearson at auckland.ac.nz>
> *Date:* September 19, 2016 at 7:50:42 PM EDT
> *To:* "'eril-l at lists.eril-l.org'" <eril-l at lists.eril-l.org>
> *Subject:* *Re: [Eril-l] [FORGED] Cambridge adopted the same bad platform
> as Taylor & Francis?*
>
> On a technical point - I believe T&F Online is on the Atypon Literatum
> platform. I don’t know whether Cambridge Core is, or whether CUP developed
> their own platform.
>
>
>
> Bob Pearson
> Digital Access Librarian
> Digital Services
> The University of Auckland Library
> New Zealand
>
> *From:* Eril-l [mailto:eril-l-bounces at lists.eril-l.org
> <eril-l-bounces at lists.eril-l.org>] *On Behalf Of *Diane Westerfield
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 20 September 2016 6:16 a.m.
> *To:* 'eril-l at lists.eril-l.org' <eril-l at lists.eril-l.org>
> *Subject:* [FORGED] [Eril-l] Cambridge adopted the same bad platform as
> Taylor & Francis?
>
>
>
> Hey everybody,
>
>
>
> I was trying to log into Cambridge today and noticed the new “Cambridge
> Core” seems to have adopted the same bad platform as Taylor & Francis, just
> with different branding. Dumbed down, no Advanced Search, no Journal Titles
> A-Z, generic Bootstrap look, hard to see what you have access to until you
> drill down to the article level.
>
>
>
> https://www.cambridge.org/core
>
> http://taylorandfrancis.com/
>
>
>
> I’m unable to articulate in a polite way my displeasure so I’ll just leave
> those links for others to browse, unhappily.
>
>
>
> Diane Westerfield, Electronic Resources & Serials Librarian
>
> Tutt Library, Colorado College
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> diane.westerfield at coloradocollege.edu
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> (719) 389-6661
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