[Eril-l] [FORGED] Cambridge adopted the same bad platform as Taylor & Francis?

Tue Sep 20 08:16:18 PDT 2016

Thanks to Tristan for this response. For me the most important sentence is:
"Of course, most readers search in library systems and internet search
engines, not on publisher platforms.".

As a librarian at an institution with a robust discovery service (EDS), I
strongly discourage users from using the search features of any one
publisher site (including JSTOR in that although they aren't really a
publisher). There just isn't any publisher who has such an extreme monopoly
on any one discipline, not even ACS or APA, to justify the time spent
learning a bespoke search engine for just that one publisher's subset of
the discipline's scholarly output.
I welcome hearing reasons why I'm wrong.

Melissa Belvadi

On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 12:05 PM, Tristan C Collier <tcollier at cambridge.org>
wrote:

> Dear All,
>
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> Thanks for your feedback about Cambridge Core. This is very valuable for
> us in terms of informing platform development going forwards.
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> *Design*
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> We’re sorry that Diane doesn’t like the design of the platform. Bob
> Pearson is correct in saying that the T&F platform is built on Atypon
> technology, whereas Cambridge Core is entirely bespoke and built in-house.
> So there is no common technology or shared design between the two
> platforms.  In response to Steve Oberg, yes Cambridge Core is entirely
> created by CUP, though we did work with two or three partners on areas like
> usage reporting and web analytics. Apologies if this wasn’t clear enough in
> my response to LibLicense-L.
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> Cambridge Core was developed after exhaustive user research, especially
> amongst academic researchers, but also librarians, authors and society
> publishers, so there may have been similar requests made by researchers
> when T&F designed their platform.  Of course, not everyone is going to
> agree, even within these groups, on their preferred solutions, but we have
> tried to please as many people as possible.
>
>
>
> Yes Cambridge Core is ‘responsive’, or designed to work on all devices.
> As several have commented, this is imperative due to the proliferation of
> non-desktop technology and the need to provide a good experience on
> handheld devices.
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> *A-Z journals listing*
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> This is available here: https://www.cambridge.org/
> core/what-we-publish/journals We are currently consulting on whether we
> can improve on the signposting to get people to this.
>
>
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> *Content I have access to*
>
> Thanks Leslie for your approval for our check box for “only search content
> I have access to”.  We discussed this option at great length with a panel
> of librarians who tested Cambridge Core at Charleston last year and many
> other librarians globally.  We are looking to improve the display of what
> users have access to – we are considering how to show access symbols on the
> all issues page as well as at the article/journal page/chapter/book levels.
>
>
>
> *Advanced Search*
>
> Diane you also mentioned that Advanced Search does not feature. In some
> ways, we feel that Cambridge Core is an example of less is more in this
> regard.  The search function on Cambridge Core is far more powerful than
> the search on our previous platforms and the faceting options on the left
> hand side enable accurate pinpointing of content in a way that was never
> possible across the previous 6 platforms. So in fact the Cambridge Core
> search is far smarter than the Advanced Search on the old systems. We have
> tried to provide a solution that is of maximum benefit to our readers and
> libraries globally, but of course we are always hoping to improve this if
> we receive feedback and we will continue to review our search solution.
>
>
>
> Of course, most readers search in library systems and internet search
> engines, not on publisher platforms.
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>
>
> *Future development*
>
> The good news is that Cambridge Core has been built on new, flexible
> technology, which will enable us to make improvements more quickly than was
> possible with our previous platforms.
>
>
>
> I hope this goes some way towards explaining the development work behind
> Cambridge Core.  Once again, thanks for all your input and please let us
> know if you have further questions or comments.
>
>
>
> Best wishes
>
> Tristan
>
>
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> Tristan Collier
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> Senior Library Marketing Manager,
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> Institutional Marketing
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> Cambridge University Press
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> University Printing House
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> Shaftesbury Road
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> Cambridge, CB2 8BS
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> http://www.cambridge.org/core
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> *From:* Bob Pearson <b.pearson at auckland.ac.nz>
> *Date:* September 19, 2016 at 7:50:42 PM EDT
> *To:* "'eril-l at lists.eril-l.org'" <eril-l at lists.eril-l.org>
> *Subject:* *Re: [Eril-l] [FORGED] Cambridge adopted the same bad platform
> as Taylor & Francis?*
>
> On a technical point - I believe T&F Online is on the Atypon Literatum
> platform. I don’t know whether Cambridge Core is, or whether CUP developed
> their own platform.
>
>
>
> Bob Pearson
> Digital Access Librarian
> Digital Services
> The University of Auckland Library
> New Zealand
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> *From:* Eril-l [mailto:eril-l-bounces at lists.eril-l.org
> <eril-l-bounces at lists.eril-l.org>] *On Behalf Of *Diane Westerfield
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 20 September 2016 6:16 a.m.
> *To:* 'eril-l at lists.eril-l.org' <eril-l at lists.eril-l.org>
> *Subject:* [FORGED] [Eril-l] Cambridge adopted the same bad platform as
> Taylor & Francis?
>
>
>
> Hey everybody,
>
>
>
> I was trying to log into Cambridge today and noticed the new “Cambridge
> Core” seems to have adopted the same bad platform as Taylor & Francis, just
> with different branding. Dumbed down, no Advanced Search, no Journal Titles
> A-Z, generic Bootstrap look, hard to see what you have access to until you
> drill down to the article level.
>
>
>
> https://www.cambridge.org/core
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> http://taylorandfrancis.com/
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> I’m unable to articulate in a polite way my displeasure so I’ll just leave
> those links for others to browse, unhappily.
>
>
>
> Diane Westerfield, Electronic Resources & Serials Librarian
>
> Tutt Library, Colorado College
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> diane.westerfield at coloradocollege.edu
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> (719) 389-6661
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Melissa Belvadi
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University of Prince Edward Island
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