<div dir="ltr"><div>Melissa,</div><div><br></div><div>A discussion of 'canonical home(s)' does seem to assume that the location of a digital object is an inherent part of its identity. I am reluctant to share that assumption. It looks to me likely to elide many of the attributes of digital objects which make them different from tangible objects.</div><div><br></div><div>I don't object to using a DOI as <i>part</i> of a locator. This seems very reasonable, and one could argue that this is what the <a href="http://doi.org">doi.org</a> resolver and Crossref are doing. (And PLoS definitely described a system doing that.) But I also don't object to multiple resolution if you supply such a system with a DOI and nothing more. The trouble seems to me to come in when you ask a third-party system to act as a link resolver when you pass it <i>nothing but</i> a DOI. (At a minimum, I'd think for closed access works you'd also want to pass user affiliation, for instance.)</div><div><br></div><div>I don't think the DOI system is the problem here. Publisher practice <i>might</i> be a problem. Librarian practice<i> might</i> be a problem. Librarian and user expectations <i>might</i> be a problem. But the DOI system is doing one thing—I think its primary goal—rather well, and I think it's able to do that so well because the system <i>doesn't</i> try to do the locating part. Mess with it, and I think you'll get something worse.</div><div><br></div><div>Anna</div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>-----</div><div>Anna Shields (she/they)</div><div>E-resources Librarian, Interim Systems Librarian</div><div>Williams College</div><div>on the unceded lands of the <a href="https://www.mohican.com/brief-history/" target="_blank">People of the Waters that Are Never Still</a></div><div><br></div><div><a href="mailto:as67@williams.edu" target="_blank">as67@williams.edu</a><br></div><div>(413) 597-2041</div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Oct 23, 2025 at 12:32 PM Electronic Resources in Libraries discussion list via Eril-l <<a href="mailto:eril-l@lists.eril-l.org">eril-l@lists.eril-l.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg-6031331399174802640">
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Interesting perspective, and can get us into a semantic debate about whether the location of the digital object is inherently part of its identification. </div>
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Many major academic publishers are using the DOI URL as their "direct to title" URL, eg in our holdings knowledge base (for us that's EBSCO). </div>
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I think the train has left on objecting to the use of DOIs as a "locator". And I think the server location as resolved by Crossref is carrying a kind of metadata that is related to the object, namely who is the canonical "owner" (not in the copyright sense,
but the maintenance responsibility sense) of the object. I'm sure a lot of you are like me in playing around with multiple browser plugins like GetFTR, Nomad, Unpaywall, etc. that can lead users to non-canonical copies. And with the growth in multiple canonical
"homes" (the topic of my original post in this thread), that "owner" metadata is getting blurry. </div>
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I don't have a perfect answer, but I'm thinking that we do need to think on a big scale about modifying DOI, or at least DOI as implemented by Crossref, to deal with the multiple "owners" problem. A meta question might be: where does the responsibility for
solving this problem lie? Crossref? Our individual knowledge-base vendors? Some kind of third-party (open or commercial) service that starts with the 'standard' DOI and can cross-check against our knowledge base to find the "right" canonical one for our patrons?
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<div>I am happy to be demonstrated wrong, but it seems to me that the problem is one of treating an <i>identifier</i> as a <i>locator</i>. A DOI is meant to uniquely identify a unit of scholarly expression. A link resolver might use a DOI to help correctly
identify the work it has been asked to locate, but the DOI is not itself a location descriptor.</div>
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<div>Treating Crossref as a link resolver seems like a bad mistake.</div>
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<div>Thank you for bringing this up, this is a concern here too -- the multiple resolution screen, while somewhat rare, is confusing for both patrons and staff alike. Our most frequent instance of this happening is actually with Bloomsbury resources, with multiple
resolutions to 2 different Bloomsbury collections. A user can't be expected to know which one they can access the item through, and honestly, sometimes I don't know either offhand without looking it up. Our e-resources team has largely avoided a stance on
whether or not we recommend using DOIs, but I personally avoid using them, primarily for this reason.</div>
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This is about DOIs for articles that have more than one "canonical"/official publisher home.</div>
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That can happen, and does frequently, when a journal changes publishers and BOTH publishers maintain an official archive for PCA libraries.</div>
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For instance, the 2006-2011 of the journal, Frontiers of History in China, where Brill has 2006-present and Springer-Nature, the previous publisher, has 2006-2011. Our only access is on SN because we did not continue the subscription in 2012 when Brill got
it. But the DOI in our discovery service only leads to Brill, not SN.</div>
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The NISO Journal Transfer database, <a id="m_-6031331399174802640x_m_-2113756319890363992m_659377250621660611OWA58b308ba-971a-e227-023d-597f17b73b90" href="https://journaltransfer.issn.org/" target="_blank">
https://journaltransfer.issn.org/</a>, documents when journals transfer and includes whether the archive up to that point will be hosted by the transferring or receiving publisher. Sometimes it is actually both.</div>
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It was recently brought to my attention that Crossref has a "multiple resolution" (MR) system, such that when following some DOI links, the user gets a list of links to each of the publisher platforms that are still "official" (I think by NISO's concept of
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I asked Crossref about what I should do to get an "MR" for this journal.</div>
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This is part of the reply I got:</div>
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However, just to set expectations, multiple resolution is used quite rarely. Most publishers prefer that DOIs resolved directly to the version of the content on their particular platform. And, the feedback we get from librarians about multiple resolution
has honestly been primarily negative, because they don't like users to be faced with another decision point or extra friction in accessing the content. (we do have a workaround to 'bypass' multiple resolution, for that reason, and resolve directly to either
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That said, the more typical solution is for libraries to link to content, not directly via the DOI, but using an OpenURL link resolver or discovery tool integration that will direct users to the appropriate subscription version for which they have full text
access. It's possible to integrate metadata from Crossref into such a tool, to facilitate linking more effectively. </div>
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As I read and re-read that answer, it occurred to me to question whether the entire point of the DOI system is breaking down. When Crossref itself tells me not to use DOI links, but instead openurl links, which is where we were 20 years ago and whose problems
were a big part of the reason for supporting the adoption of the DOI ecosystem in the first place, I feel like we are moving backwards in a context that I thought we had solved already.</div>
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I know that DOI still works for "most" situations. But openurl also worked for "most situations", and still does. I worked at a library that was one of the very earliest adopters of openurl, and even wrote my own openurl resolver for my library before the commercial
products existed. I have a long memory of how we got from there to here.</div>
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So I wanted to consult your collective wisdom about this issue, both from the immediate "best service to patrons today" perspective and the "long-term where should our ecosystem be going next?" perspective.</div>
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