<div dir="ltr">Hello,<div><br></div><div>We recently switched to the new EBSCO UI and have found that the search options cause significant issues w/ boolean and w/ keyword searching (depending on which "search mode" you have selected as the default). This week we spent time documenting what the different search settings do for the same search (see attached ), and to build off what Anne mentions, my guess is the lower results in ERIC is likely occurring because the "Bool", "All", or "Smart" setting is selected for "Search Mode" in EBSCO Configuration (in EBSCO experience). We've found "find any of my search terms" is the only one that doesn't cause significant issues, but even this option is not perfect. Note that for natural language we've found that it brings up zero results for a really basic query (see page 5 of attached PDF).</div><div><br></div><div>Section of EBSCO Experience/Configuration to change search settings:</div><div><img src="cid:ii_mbkytn3h1" alt="image.png" width="562" height="356"><br></div><div><br></div><div>Simon</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jun 6, 2025 at 11:19 AM Electronic Resources in Libraries discussion list via Eril-l <<a href="mailto:eril-l@lists.eril-l.org">eril-l@lists.eril-l.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>This is an interesting discussion, especially with the uncertainty around ERIC's status.</div><div> </div><div>I searched for k-12 students AND meditation (no quotation marks) in Education Research Complete and initially got 0 results. I then toggled on the Natural language search and got 2,421 result. See screenshot below. I had a similar experience in ERIC on Ebsco. Are you seeing this Natural language option in the EBSCO UI? </div><div><br></div><div>Anne</div><div><br></div><img src="cid:ii_mbky6v2j0" alt="image.png" width="480" height="293"><br><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><p style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.8px"><font color="#073763">Anne P. Hancock<br></font><span style="color:rgb(7,55,99);font-size:12.8px">Head of Resource Management, McQuade Library<br></span><span style="color:rgb(7,55,99);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.3333px">Liaison for the Girard School of Business</span><span style="color:rgb(7,55,99);font-size:12.8px"><br></span><font color="#073763" style="font-size:12.8px">Merrimack College</font><span style="font-size:12.8px;color:rgb(241,194,50)"> </span><span style="font-size:12.8px;color:rgb(241,194,50);font-family:Arial,sans-serif">I</span><font color="#073763" style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> </span><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">315 Turnpike St</span><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">.</span></font><span style="font-size:12.8px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(84,141,212)"> </span><span style="font-size:12.8px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(255,192,0)">I</span><span style="font-size:12.8px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><font color="#073763"> </font></span><font face="Arial, sans-serif" style="font-size:12.8px"><font color="#073763">North Andover, MA 01845<br></font></font><font face="Arial, sans-serif" style="font-size:12.8px"><font color="#073763">978-837-5350 </font></font><font color="#f1c232" style="font-size:12.8px">|</font><font color="#073763" style="font-size:12.8px"> <a href="mailto:hancockan@merrimack.edu" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">hancockan@merrimack.edu</a> </font></p><p style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.8px"><img width="200" height="50" src="https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/mail-sig/AIorK4wEduxch0ybHuIY2MtE92_0zSuWmlQksh0IUUBrETX00dmb4eWkywap904qy6HjjIikQ2pe4Ig" style="font-size: 12.8px;"><br></p></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jun 6, 2025 at 11:13 AM Electronic Resources in Libraries discussion list via Eril-l <<a href="mailto:eril-l@lists.eril-l.org" target="_blank">eril-l@lists.eril-l.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">We noticed this some time ago (and with ProQuest's ERIC as well) and never got a satisfactory response from either Ebsco or PQ. Would love to know what you all learn.<br>
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We are seeing this problem too. Kris what's the EBSCO case number so I can have EBSCO technical support add us to this case.<br>
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One of our librarians just compared <a href="http://eric.ed.gov" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">eric.ed.gov</a> and EBSCO eric:<br>
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I searched for k-12 students AND meditation (no quotation marks)<br>
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<a href="http://eric.ed.gov" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">eric.ed.gov</a> = 507<br>
EBSCO eric = 34<br>
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Dear List,<br>
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A colleague at my institution reports that the Education Source database on EBSCOhost is retrieving far fewer results than expected.<br>
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For example, a "Find all my search terms" search for [k-12 students AND meditation] currently returns 47 results, when in the past the same search has retrieved up to 20,000 results.<br>
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Has anyone else noticed such a discrepancy?<br>
<br>
Thanks!<br>
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John Holm (he/him)<br>
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Hi John-<br>
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I saw this same situation when I ran a search I do each year in Sport Discus. It was also off by thousands. I opened a case at Ebsco and they are investigating it.<br>
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Kris<br>
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On Thu, Jun 5, 2025 at 3:11?PM Electronic Resources in Libraries discussion list via Eril-l <<a href="mailto:eril-l@lists.eril-l.org" target="_blank">eril-l@lists.eril-l.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Dear List,<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> A colleague at my institution reports that the Education Source<br>
> database on EBSCOhost is retrieving far fewer results than expected.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> For example, a ?Find all my search terms? search for [k-12 students<br>
> AND meditation] currently returns 47 results, when in the past the<br>
> same search has retrieved up to 20,000 results.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Has anyone else noticed such a discrepancy?<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Thanks!<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> *John Holm* (he/him)<br>
> E-Resources & Discovery Librarian<br>
><br>
> University of St. Thomas Libraries | <a href="http://library.stthomas.edu" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">library.stthomas.edu</a><br>
><br>
> <a href="mailto:john.holm@stthomas.edu" target="_blank">john.holm@stthomas.edu</a> | (651) 962-5009 | OSF Library 155<br>
> Zoom:<br>
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