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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Hi Nancy,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Our FTE is 18,985 and the non credit students only number 60+ so this low addition of users may be why vendors were easy to agree to it.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#212529;background:white">Audra M. Deemer,
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#212529;background:white">Head of Acquisitions & Collections<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Eril-l <eril-l-bounces@lists.eril-l.org>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Electronic Resources in Libraries discussion list via Eril-l<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 26, 2023 3:25 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Electronic Resources in Libraries discussion list <eril-l@lists.eril-l.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Eril-l] [EXT] License negotiations and non-credit continuing ed students<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Audra,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks for sharing this strategy you used for OpenAthens. It is good to know that some vendors included these students. We have about 2000 FTE students and are being asked to accommodate another 200 of these non-credit affiliated students.
 They are also asking for campus email accounts, which would be a requirement for access as well. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Best,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Nancy<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 10:43 AM Electronic Resources in Libraries discussion list via Eril-l <<a href="mailto:eril-l@lists.eril-l.org">eril-l@lists.eril-l.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Hi Nancy,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Do you have a large number of non-credit students? For our migration to OpenAthens, I reviewed our
 agreements to determine all of the patron groups and what their permissions for our e-resources are. Some agreements did have language that might allow for these types of students that are not counting towards FTE and when I was unsure, I contacted the vendors
 and asked them. A lot of vendors gave me the okay to have these students access their resources. I am not sure anyone actually said “no” but we also don’t have a huge number of these students.
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</span></b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#212529;background:white">MLIS (she/her/Ms.)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#212529;background:white">| Chicago, IL 60614<br>
Tel: (773) 325-7855</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Eril-l <<a href="mailto:eril-l-bounces@lists.eril-l.org" target="_blank">eril-l-bounces@lists.eril-l.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Electronic Resources in Libraries discussion list via Eril-l<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 26, 2023 9:27 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Electronic Resources in Libraries discussion list <<a href="mailto:eril-l@lists.eril-l.org" target="_blank">eril-l@lists.eril-l.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EXT] [Eril-l] License negotiations and non-credit continuing ed students</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">As a followup to the earlier discussions about <i>Access to electronic resources for non-credit continuing education students,
</i>have any libraries tried negotiating access for this sub group on campus? If so, what was the response from vendors and what did they use for pricing? We have been asked to come up with a number for what additional costs this would entail and I am not sure
 how to go about it without reaching out to all our vendors, which I am hesitant to do.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Since the majority of our licenses are based on FTE and access for students, faculty, and staff, I wonder how this group of non-credit continuing ed students factors into other
 licensing agreements. Who on campus should decide if these students are within our existing subset of users? Do you consider them students that should have the same level of access? I don't think it makes sense to add them to our FTE numbers.<o:p></o:p></p>
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