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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Jennifer,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I was able to use my ORCID on 3<sup>rd</sup> party SSO yesterday. I was also able to link it to my existing NCBI account from years ago. I had not signed in to
My NCBI for a few years.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif">Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><b><span style="font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif;color:#00325B">Dom Benson<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif;color:#00325B">Research Outputs Visibility Manager,
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black"><a href="https://www.brunel.ac.uk/life/library/ORR" title="https://www.brunel.ac.uk/life/library/ORR"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue">Open
Research & Rights Office</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif;color:#00325B">Brunel University London
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Eril-l <eril-l-bounces@lists.eril-l.org>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>McCarthy, Jennifer<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 17 January 2023 14:45<br>
<b>To:</b> eril-l@lists.eril-l.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Eril-l] Issue with SSO access to NIH/NCBI<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Emily,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Last week we started experiencing a similar issue? I think it’s related to our Shibboleth upgrade, or the new NIH DMP policy?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">This is what I send out to MedLIB Friday:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Good Afternoon,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">For the past two days our PubMed login process has changed, and users are met with a 'create' a new account' screen.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">This is happening via 3rd Party SSO, and ORCHID. Have not tried any other login methods.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Users are 'forced' to create a new account then have to contact NLM helpdesk to merge this new account with their original account with saved searches.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">If the user never had an NCBI account the SSO works as expected.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Anyone else experiencing this issue?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Thanks!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Jen<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Jennifer McCarthy<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Miner Library<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">University of Rochester<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">School of Medicine & Dentistry<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Eril-l <<a href="mailto:eril-l-bounces@lists.eril-l.org">eril-l-bounces@lists.eril-l.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ray, Emily<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 17, 2023 9:05 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:eril-l@lists.eril-l.org">eril-l@lists.eril-l.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EXT] [Eril-l] issue with SSO access to NIH/NCBI - going in circles<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Hi all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">UNF has an access issue for our users who want to sign into NIH/NCBI on our PubMed landing page. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><img border="0" width="1063" height="114" style="width:11.0763in;height:1.1875in" id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.png@01D92B26.EFE20920" alt="cid:image001.png@01D92A56.A4BAF450"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Previously users had to create an account, now it’s through SSO only, but not through Open Athens. We’ve gotten to the stage where UNF ITS is contacting NIH support and asking them to supply security documentation, SOC2,
SOC3 IT Security, HECVAT light. NIH support then says we don’t do SSO integration, the issue is that you have a metadata issue with InCommon, you just need to fix that. UNF ITS says our set up with InCommon is fine, we don’t allow access to 3<sup>rd</sup>
parties through SSO without this documentation, please supply it. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">If you click on the UNF listing on the InCommon list of institutions, you get an error. “UNF login- Unsupported request the application you have accessed is not registered for use with this service.”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">InCommon won’t communicate with me in the library, only with their contact in our university ITS.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Could someone who knows how their university/college set this up with InCommon, let me know what’s needed, or how your university provides access to NIH/NCBI.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I don’t know what attributes/data NIH needs (guessing just registry information), or what metadata is required by InCommon. I suspect NIH has the SSO through InCommon so they won’t have to deal with these type of requests
for security information, and we only have to deal with InCommon, but I don’t know if that’s the case.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Any help or guidance is appreciated, <o:p>
</o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Emily<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Emily Ray<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Electronic Resources Librarian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Thomas G. Carpenter Library<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">University of North Florida<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><a href="mailto:emily.ray@unf.edu">emily.ray@unf.edu</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">904-620-5673<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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