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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Theresa provides a perfect answer to both of your questions, but I’ll risk confusing the issue with further information on the second part of your question.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">We encountered a clause making broad assertions of intellectual property rights within the license, and pushed back pretty strongly. We are fortunate to have
an excellent counsel who was able to craft compromise language that provided protection for our patrons while still allowing the vendor to protect its own IP. I fear that more contracts will have such clauses in the future, and I’m completely at a loss to
comprehend how the average academic library could even begin to comply.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Best always,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Eril-l <eril-l-bounces@lists.eril-l.org>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Arndt,Theresa<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 1, 2022 4:51 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Huber, Sara H. <sarai@ou.edu>; eril-l@lists.eril-l.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Eril-l] License Negotiation Question<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">I've successfully asked to have walk-in access added to licenses by simply asking. I've never encountered that other type of clause. I suggest you just ask them to strike that. In my experience a simple request
will often result in the vendor removing an objectionable clause. Sometimes I think the licenses are written for use with their for-profit customers, but they'll remove clauses for a non-profit educational institution. If they refuse, you could involve your
university general counsel in reviewing the license - a lawyer's objection may carry more weight if the vendor wants your business.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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on behalf of Huber, Sara H. <<a href="mailto:sarai@ou.edu">sarai@ou.edu</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 1, 2022 4:31 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:eril-l@lists.eril-l.org">eril-l@lists.eril-l.org</a> <<a href="mailto:eril-l@lists.eril-l.org">eril-l@lists.eril-l.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Eril-l] License Negotiation Question</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">A license has recently come across my desk with two unique clauses that I haven’t seen before. The first section defines authorized users as ONLY
those that are employed by the institution OR students and teachers of the institution. The language seems to exclude walk-in or guest users from accessing this product. The second section that troubles me indicates that all rights in any patents, designs,
copyright, trademarks, etc. that are created or arising from the use of the product are to be assigned to the product owner. Has anyone encountered language like this before, and have you been able to successfully negotiate removal of these license terms?
They appear to place an undue burden on the library and is not something that we feel can be enforceable.
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Thank you!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">______________________________<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Sara Huber<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Acquisitions Librarian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">University of Oklahoma Libraries<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><a href="mailto:sarai@ou.edu"><span style="color:windowtext">sarai@ou.edu</span></a> |405.325.1888<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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on behalf of Huber, Sara H. <<a href="mailto:sarai@ou.edu">sarai@ou.edu</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 1, 2022 4:31 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:eril-l@lists.eril-l.org">eril-l@lists.eril-l.org</a> <<a href="mailto:eril-l@lists.eril-l.org">eril-l@lists.eril-l.org</a>><br>
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<p class="xmsonormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">A license has recently come across my desk with two unique clauses that I haven’t seen before. The first section defines authorized users as ONLY
those that are employed by the institution OR students and teachers of the institution. The language seems to exclude walk-in or guest users from accessing this product. The second section that troubles me indicates that all rights in any patents, designs,
copyright, trademarks, etc. that are created or arising from the use of the product are to be assigned to the product owner. Has anyone encountered language like this before, and have you been able to successfully negotiate removal of these license terms?
They appear to place an undue burden on the library and is not something that we feel can be enforceable.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Thank you!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">______________________________<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Sara Huber<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Acquisitions Librarian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">University of Oklahoma Libraries<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><a href="mailto:sarai@ou.edu"><span style="color:windowtext">sarai@ou.edu</span></a> |405.325.1888<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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