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<p class="MsoNormal">My original reply was sent only to Sara. I agree with Theresa that it never hurts to ask!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Sara, this sounds like a resource that is geared towards the private sector/for-profit entity, not an academic market. I suggest that you write back to them and explain that as an academic institution you need to license for all members
of the institution (fac, staff & students) and as a public institution you are required to allow walk-in users (should that be the case). If needed you could explain the procedure for walk-ins to gain access to ensure that their behavior can be tracked should
they abuse their privileges. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">You could also explain the intended use of the resource at your institution –teaching, research, educational purposes-- not commercial development (again if that’s the case) and would the vendor strike that section?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I believe it’s worth asking for changes that fit with the academic usage model while explaining just that point. Academic versus commercial.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Good luck.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Susan<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Eril-l <eril-l-bounces@lists.eril-l.org> <b>On Behalf Of
</b>Arndt,Theresa<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 1, 2022 4:51 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Huber, Sara H. <sarai@ou.edu>; eril-l@lists.eril-l.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Eril-l] License Negotiation Question<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black">Hi Sara -
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black">I've successfully asked to have walk-in access added to licenses by simply asking. I've never encountered that other type of clause. I suggest you just ask
them to strike that. In my experience a simple request will often result in the vendor removing an objectionable clause. Sometimes I think the licenses are written for use with their for-profit customers, but they'll remove clauses for a non-profit educational
institution. If they refuse, you could involve your university general counsel in reviewing the license - a lawyer's objection may carry more weight if the vendor wants your business.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black">Good luck! - Theresa<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black">Office/voicemail: (717) 245-1750</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From:</span></b><span style="color:black"> Eril-l <<a href="mailto:eril-l-bounces@lists.eril-l.org">eril-l-bounces@lists.eril-l.org</a>> on behalf of Huber, Sara H. <<a href="mailto:sarai@ou.edu">sarai@ou.edu</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 1, 2022 4:31 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:eril-l@lists.eril-l.org">eril-l@lists.eril-l.org</a> <<a href="mailto:eril-l@lists.eril-l.org">eril-l@lists.eril-l.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Eril-l] License Negotiation Question</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal">Hello,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal" style="text-autospace:none">A license has recently come across my desk with two unique clauses that I haven’t seen before. The first section defines authorized users as ONLY those that are employed by the institution OR students and teachers
of the institution. The language seems to exclude walk-in or guest users from accessing this product. The second section that troubles me indicates that all rights in any patents, designs, copyright, trademarks, etc. that are created or arising from the use
of the product are to be assigned to the product owner. Has anyone encountered language like this before, and have you been able to successfully negotiate removal of these license terms? They appear to place an undue burden on the library and is not something
that we feel can be enforceable. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal">Thank you!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal">______________________________<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal">Sara Huber<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal">Acquisitions Librarian<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal">University of Oklahoma Libraries<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal"><a href="mailto:sarai@ou.edu"><span style="color:windowtext">sarai@ou.edu</span></a> |405.325.1888<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From:</span></b><span style="color:black"> Eril-l <<a href="mailto:eril-l-bounces@lists.eril-l.org">eril-l-bounces@lists.eril-l.org</a>> on behalf of Huber, Sara H. <<a href="mailto:sarai@ou.edu">sarai@ou.edu</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 1, 2022 4:31 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:eril-l@lists.eril-l.org">eril-l@lists.eril-l.org</a> <<a href="mailto:eril-l@lists.eril-l.org">eril-l@lists.eril-l.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Eril-l] License Negotiation Question</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal">Hello,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal" style="text-autospace:none">A license has recently come across my desk with two unique clauses that I haven’t seen before. The first section defines authorized users as ONLY those that are employed by the institution OR students and teachers
of the institution. The language seems to exclude walk-in or guest users from accessing this product. The second section that troubles me indicates that all rights in any patents, designs, copyright, trademarks, etc. that are created or arising from the use
of the product are to be assigned to the product owner. Has anyone encountered language like this before, and have you been able to successfully negotiate removal of these license terms? They appear to place an undue burden on the library and is not something
that we feel can be enforceable. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal">Thank you!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal">______________________________<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal">Sara Huber<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal">Acquisitions Librarian<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal">University of Oklahoma Libraries<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal"><a href="mailto:sarai@ou.edu"><span style="color:windowtext">sarai@ou.edu</span></a> |405.325.1888<o:p></o:p></p>
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