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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks, Scott.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">My impression was that page charges were somewhat defensible if the publication was in print format: am I off-base? Doesn’t the justification evaporate when we’re thinking of online publications?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">In any case, some of the fees I found are framed as page charges, while others are just a fee. If the fee is to support the publisher’s services (editing, distribution, etc.) what are the library’s subscription charges supporting? This
still seems like double-charging to me, and it seems exploitative, since they know many researchers will scrape together the money, because the risk of remaining unpublished is too high.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#52524A">Laurel Sammonds Crawford, MLIS</span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> T Scott Plutchak <splutchak@gmail.com> <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 15, 2021 12:47 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Crawford, Laurel <Laurel.Crawford@unt.edu><br>
<b>Cc:</b> eril-l@lists.eril-l.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EXT] Re: [Eril-l] APCs for paywalled articles?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Page charges in society journals have a very long history, predating online journals. I’m not defending current practices, just pointing out that requiring authors to partially subsidize publication has been going on for a very long time.
When commercial publishers started to move into the scientific publishing arena many decades ago, one of their inducements to authors was that they didn’t have page charges. They made up for it, of course, by having higher subscription fees.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Scott<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">T Scott Plutchak<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Librarian<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="mailto:splutchak@gmail.com">splutchak@gmail.com</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mar 15, 2021, at 12:04 PM, Crawford, Laurel <<a href="mailto:Laurel.Crawford@unt.edu">Laurel.Crawford@unt.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We’re all familiar with APCs for OA articles. I have encountered a situation I haven’t run into before: some journals are requiring authors to pay a fee to publish non-OA articles.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The examples we’ve found so far are all society journals in STEM fields. Some of them are published by one of the major publishers.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1"><a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fesajournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com%2Fhub%2Fjournal%2F15409309%2Fresources%2Fauthor-guidelines-FEE&data=04%7C01%7CLaurel.Crawford%40unt.edu%7Cf306bb7d02b54abe417008d8e7da4808%7C70de199207c6480fa318a1afcba03983%7C0%7C0%7C637514271995841481%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=WGNh4vAW4vyX4XsZ2cRhr3tbYHSVk%2FjBOSxgdnXkHHA%3D&reserved=0" title="https://esajournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/hub/journal/15409309/resources/author-guidelines-FEE"><span style="color:#954F72">Frontiers
in Ecology and the Environment</span></a>, Ecology Society of America<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1">All publications from ESA - see<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fesajournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com%2Fdoi%2Ffull%2F10.1002%2Fbes2.1594&data=04%7C01%7CLaurel.Crawford%40unt.edu%7Cf306bb7d02b54abe417008d8e7da4808%7C70de199207c6480fa318a1afcba03983%7C0%7C0%7C637514271995851475%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=PMZdzH4bAwLDkD0jJZ6DHhBiebnbgvO5DeE0U1CiI0I%3D&reserved=0" title="https://esajournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/bes2.1594"><span style="color:#954F72">Table
3</span></a><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>of this article<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1"><a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpphys.msubmit.net%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmain.plex%3Fform_type%3Ddisplay_auth_instructions&data=04%7C01%7CLaurel.Crawford%40unt.edu%7Cf306bb7d02b54abe417008d8e7da4808%7C70de199207c6480fa318a1afcba03983%7C0%7C0%7C637514271995861468%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=2Cl1jGiWCZCE1Y4BzhpmwA6Nh2wMkhisi3fWPgQyGVo%3D&reserved=0" title="https://pphys.msubmit.net/cgi-bin/main.plex?form_type=display_auth_instructions"><span style="color:#954F72">Plant
Physiology</span></a>, American Society of Plant Biologists - see section, Fees and Charges. <o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1">ASPB's journal,<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftpc.msubmit.net%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmain.plex%3Fform_type%3Ddisplay_auth_instructions&data=04%7C01%7CLaurel.Crawford%40unt.edu%7Cf306bb7d02b54abe417008d8e7da4808%7C70de199207c6480fa318a1afcba03983%7C0%7C0%7C637514271995861468%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=6eZCxzpoZl7CGGa9603Mtu1fmtyNJpbEAwS7fOsiKLg%3D&reserved=0" title="https://tpc.msubmit.net/cgi-bin/main.plex?form_type=display_auth_instructions"><span style="color:#954F72">The
Plant Cell</span></a>, also has charges for non-open access. See Policies and Fees.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="xmsonormal" style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1">
AGU journals<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.agu.org%2FPublish-with-AGU%2FPublish%2FAuthor-Resources%2FPublication-fees&data=04%7C01%7CLaurel.Crawford%40unt.edu%7Cf306bb7d02b54abe417008d8e7da4808%7C70de199207c6480fa318a1afcba03983%7C0%7C0%7C637514271995871468%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=SYlU1XFKLnTqmiqHDyDuVmnYfc0cfbNcZ91STN2k7gY%3D&reserved=0"><span style="color:#954F72">https://www.agu.org/Publish-with-AGU/Publish/Author-Resources/Publication-fees</span></a><o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal">What’s bothering me about this is threefold:<o:p></o:p></p>
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Our authors might be paying these fees and then the library might<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><i>also</i><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>be paying for a subscription.<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="xmsolistparagraph" style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2">
Large publisher conglomerates do not need “help making these subscriptions affordable” (as one of the above publishers claims). The library is already paying—collectively—a huge amount of money to provide access to these articles.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2">
Not all of them seem to be up-front about the fee structure. I spoke to at least one researcher who had passed through the acceptance and copy-edit stages before realizing a large fee was required for paywalled publication. We believe not disclosing that information
on their website or submission guidelines is unethical according to the<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpublicationethics.org%2Fresources%2Fguidelines-new%2Fprinciples-transparency-and-best-practice-scholarly-publishing&data=04%7C01%7CLaurel.Crawford%40unt.edu%7Cf306bb7d02b54abe417008d8e7da4808%7C70de199207c6480fa318a1afcba03983%7C0%7C0%7C637514271995871468%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=Ak3lggG3XgvsWxsyBf7ktJ76fKG8DcFo%2B94CqMGYAZs%3D&reserved=0"><span style="color:#954F72">COPE
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<p class="MsoNormal">Have others encountered this situation? Have you addressed it with the publisher? I am curious about the rationale for this, faculty attitudes toward this type of fee, and what, if anything, you believe libraries can do to advocate for
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