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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Thanks for the shout-out, Cindy. Unfortunately this tool will always and forever be limited to platforms/collections more monographic in nature.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">The reason for this is there’s a vast difference between these tasks:
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Here’s a bunch of URLs individual things we are supposed to have access to. Is there anything on the page you get to via that URL that indicates we
have (or don’t have) access? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">VERSUS<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Here’s the URL for a journal and here’s the range of holdings we’re supposed to have access to and here’s some representation of how a script can automatically
navigate to every article/item within that holding range to look for whether we have access to each individual article.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">To Melissa’s point, the script described in that article has been updated to keep up with the types of changes you describe. We use this script on an ongoing
basis. The current version is always available at: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><a href="https://github.com/UNC-Libraries/Access-Checker">https://github.com/UNC-Libraries/Access-Checker</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">It’s usually fairly simple for us to add logic for a product we don’t have locally, if you tell us exactly what that logic should be. The best way to initiate
that is by opening an issue: <a href="https://github.com/UNC-Libraries/Access-Checker/issues/new">
https://github.com/UNC-Libraries/Access-Checker/issues/new</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">If you are code savvy yourself, we have also accepted and merged some pull requests to include new or updated logic (and other improvements).
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Kristina M. Spurgin – Library Data Strategist<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> E-Resources & Serials Management, Davis Library 142a<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> CB#3938, Davis Library – Chapel Hill, NC 27514-8890<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> 919-962-3825 –
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> https://orcid.org/0000-0003-1388-7061<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Melissa Belvadi<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 10, 2019 2:47 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Harper, Cynthia <charper@vts.edu><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Alexander Dodd <adodd1@loyola.edu>; eril-l@lists.eril-l.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Eril-l] Knowledgebase Review- Tips, Tricks, Research?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">That's a great lead, and I hadn't seen that before thanks. It is however, from 2014, and I wonder how many of those platforms have changed so that those pattern-strings in Table 1 would no longer
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">What we need is some kind of crowd-sourced page/database that everyone who does this kind of work could help keep updated as we figure out for our own use what to use.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I have no idea what might be the best way to try to start something like that - maybe a mini-wiki site?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Github? As a very occasional coder, I find Github incredibly unfriendly and intimidating, but maybe it's the right tool for this.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">The task itself seems impossibly huge, but that's exactly when sharing the work across many in the profession would help make it feasible, and maybe we could even get the vendors to maintain
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I'm just really sick of discovering "missing" content by way of being embarrassed by a patron, often a very unhappy one, who finds the problem for us at their point of need.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">As the old saying goes, this is no way to run a railroad! Or in our case, library.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 3:22 PM Harper, Cynthia <<a href="mailto:charper@vts.edu">charper@vts.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">You probably know about this article from UNC’s Kristina Spurgin
<a href="https://journal.code4lib.org/articles/9684" target="_blank">https://journal.code4lib.org/articles/9684</a>. I realize it worked with ebooks, but possibly she has some article sites there too?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Melissa Belvadi<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 10, 2019 9:47 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Alexander Dodd <<a href="mailto:adodd1@loyola.edu" target="_blank">adodd1@loyola.edu</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:eril-l@lists.eril-l.org" target="_blank">eril-l@lists.eril-l.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Eril-l] Knowledgebase Review- Tips, Tricks, Research?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I am just this week wrapping up a CS student project (for which I'm the "client") that involves screenscraping publisher websites to
determine if we in fact have access to the journal volumes that our knowledgebase says we have. I don't know if you intended your technical review of access to include that level of what I call "reality checking".</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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publisher by publisher of what you look at on the publisher website to determine access. For instance, we've found that some publishers don't distinguish "you have access because we've made it free to everyone" (in a non-OA sense, like Nature, which could
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 10, 2019 8:38 AM<br>
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<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:eril-l@lists.eril-l.org" target="_blank">eril-l@lists.eril-l.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Eril-l] Knowledgebase Review- Tips, Tricks, Research?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 6:13 PM Alexander Dodd <<a href="mailto:adodd1@loyola.edu" target="_blank">adodd1@loyola.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I’m about to start a pretty in-depth review of our library’s e-resources knowledgebase holdings, and I’m curious if anyone has any research/ case studies they’ve seen that have
looked helpful in going through such a deep project, or any personal tips that they wish they had known before diving into a similar project? I’m a little new to the e-resources field so I’m always looking for great research to jump off of.
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