<div dir="ltr">So the big consortia systems get amazing deals such that the impact on any one library is minimal. Those of us without opportunities to be part of these systems have little bargaining power, especially since the same body that accredits our program sells us the content required for accreditation. How far is this really from a protection racket? But ACS members won't change it. In theory they could, right? It's a membership organization? There are more benefits to members than libraries see, apparently.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Karen Jensen<br>Collection Development Officer<br>Rasmuson Library<br>University of Alaska Fairbanks<br></div>907-474-6695<br><div><a href="mailto:kljensen@alaska.edu" target="_blank">kljensen@alaska.edu</a></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 8:35 AM, Eric Elmore <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Eric.Elmore@utsa.edu" target="_blank">Eric.Elmore@utsa.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">We get ACS as part of the University of Texas system, so our pricing may be a tad lower than others due to consortial arrangements.
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Melissa Belvadi<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 10, 2018 10:22 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Leslie Burke <<a href="mailto:Leslie.Burke@kzoo.edu" target="_blank">Leslie.Burke@kzoo.edu</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:eril-l@lists.eril-l.org" target="_blank">eril-l@lists.eril-l.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Eril-l] ACS and pay-per-view - would you be interested?<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><div class="h5">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Just took a look at our last invoice for Web Editions and our 2017 COUNTER JR1, and we're running about $6 per ft use, so I'd guess they would not be willing to have a pay per view below that.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Most of us probably can't reveal our actual contract price (nondisclosure agreements) but I don't think anything prohibits us from sharing our cost per use, so I'd be interested in how ours compares
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<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">They do sort of have a pay-per-view option, by purchasing groups of tokens. They are also not cheap. I'd be more interested in notifying our patrons which titles are included
in our subscriptions and which ones are not. We have the Academic Collection w/250 tokens, but there's no way to indicate to users which ones we have access to and which will use a token.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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Kalamazoo College<br>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#212121">I have suggested to American Chemical Society adding a pay-per-view option instead of their subscription packages. I’m told they don’t offer that option. I’m just wondering, how many schools out there would be
interested in a Pay-per-view option of ACS titles? We are a very small school, and the prices for ACS are not sustainable and are very hard to justify outside accreditation requirements. I’m feeling very frustrated actually. Am I the only one??</span><span style="color:#212121"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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