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<div style="direction: ltr;font-family: Tahoma;color: #000000;font-size: 10pt;">I think the ubiquitous access argument might be true (though it ignores the very steep digital divide in our user groups to only look at typical/average users) if the use is downloading
to read the ecopy. But, at this this PhD student is downloading to either (1) print because the formatting is too challenging to read online - scrolling right/left is a nightmare or (2) to then upload into Mendeley so it is part of my document collection and
I can easily annotate the PDF, which then becomes searchable in a personal database.
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Eril-l] Academic library ebook downloading is clumsy and ereader features inadequte - what are we doing about it?<br>
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I question whether it is worth our energy to fight about the downloading issue. Increasingly, patrons have wireless/G-whatever live access to the Internet just about everywhere they go - even on some airplanes now. As wireless access becomes universal, the
need for offline downloading as compared with just reading the ebook in the native interface (eg Proquest, Ebscohost, etc.) becomes less important. While we aren't there yet, the legal barriers for the aggregators are such that by the time they can solve
all the ADE-type issues being discussed here, it won't matter anyway. </div>
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FYI, I track the data for our print book circulation as well as our ebooks, and our non-downloadable ebooks are still getting far more uses than our far larger print collection is (although I'll admit we don't track in-house use of print books). So different
libraries are having different experiences when it comes to patron acceptance of non-downloadable ebooks.</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi all – I wonder if the message is getting through to aggregator vendors like EBSCo and Proquest that the download and DRM procedures for downloaded ebooks from their collections are seen as onerous by our patrons. I just redesigned our
ebook libguide <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__vts.libguides.com_ebooks&d=CwMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=Cw4xGASMCncc39MlCw3DJcBf5v0jr6KyTbn4LdjJG30&m=UeUEw2Mveuf2NCDoGM81zfe4Rv889fpoTnzBi7TanU4&s=jvrAywwdM7vnMs0ZoQcXQGJ7kcWE2RvTlSgLeeV0-m0&e=" target="_blank">
http://vts.libguides.com/ebooks</a>, and presented the process to the rest of the library staff. They were underwhelmed, especially when my Avira Antivirus shut off my access to the license server (again) on the computer on which I was presenting. And requiring
three logins – one for remote access, one for the aggregator site, and one Adobe ID – seems preposterous to those getting a one-shot presentation.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I also notice that once I’ve downloaded to Adobe Digital Editions, the features provided differs from ebook to ebooks, based on whether it was a PDf or an epub. Some PDFs don’t even support searching. Why can’t you save the quotes you’ve
highlighted in the ebook to a file? I wonder if because Adobe Digital Editions is free software, does it suffer from a lack of vendor commitment? Or do publishers prevent you from saving your highlighted quotes for copyright reasons?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Are vendors engaging with their customers in discussing these issues? Where is the listserv conversation going on?<u></u><u></u></p>
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