<div dir="ltr">Alas, there's a world of difference between <i>can </i>and <i>must.</i> If the standard says <i>can </i> it's obvious many vendors won't bother. If the standard is upgraded to <i>must t</i>hen they will. <br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><font size="2"><span style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">Johanna<b><br><br><br>--<br>Johanna L. Riordan</b><br>Electronic Resources Librarian</span><br style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">Haverford College Library </span><br style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">610-896-1168</span><br></span></font></div><div><font size="2"><span style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">pronouns: she/her/hers<br style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"></span></font></div><div><br style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 10:11 AM, Treskon, Matthew <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Matthew.Treskon@ars.usda.gov" target="_blank">Matthew.Treskon@ars.usda.gov</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Hi Melissa,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Based on my reading of the SUSHI protocol (<a href="http://www.niso.org/apps/group_public/download.php/14217/Z39-93-2014_SUSHI-1_7.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.niso.org/apps/group_public/download.php/14217/Z39-93-2014_SUSHI-1_7.pdf</a>
), it looks like all COUNTER reports can be included in SUSHI payloads. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">7.1
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Types of Reports
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">There are three types of reports that can be requested using the SUSHI protocol.<u></u><u></u></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">1) COUNTER Reports<u></u><u></u></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">SUSHI was originally conceived of as a method for delivering COUNTER reports. SUSHI is closely coupled, therefore, to developments at COUNTER. All COUNTER
reports will be <u></u><u></u></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">listed in the registry (see Section 7.3).
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">2) SUSHI Registered Non-COUNTER Reports<u></u><u></u></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">The SUSHI protocol will support non-COUNTER reports that meet the requirements listed in Section 7.2. Registration for non-COUNTER reports will be voluntary,
but is strongly <u></u><u></u></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">recommended for any reports that might cross over business partners. (See Section 7.3.)
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">3) Other Reports<u></u><u></u></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">SUSHI is designed to handle any report that is formatted in XML. Interested parties are encouraged to use the protocol for other purposes where it is appropriate.<u></u><u></u></span></i></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">If the data provider provides reports that your SUSHI client/harvester does not harvest, I think it is a shortcoming is with SUSHI client/harvester and not
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Matthew<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Matthew Treskon - Librarian<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Johanna Riordan<span class=""><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 14, 2016 9:10 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Melissa Belvadi<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:eril-l@lists.eril-l.org" target="_blank">eril-l@lists.eril-l.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Eril-l] COUNTER4 report harvesting?<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">I would like to find a service or tool that will harvest for us all available COUNTER4 reports from all of our compliant vendors. But so far I've the tools/services I know of, including Proquest's
and EBSCO's as well as a couple of open source options, only get a few of the reports, most notably JR1 but missing the very important JR2 and JR5.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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