[Eril-l] EBSCO Education Source retrieving fewer search
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Fri Jun 6 08:19:21 PDT 2025
This is an interesting discussion, especially with the uncertainty around
ERIC's status.
I searched for k-12 students AND meditation (no quotation marks) in
Education Research Complete and initially got 0 results. I then toggled on
the Natural language search and got 2,421 result. See screenshot below. I
had a similar experience in ERIC on Ebsco. Are you seeing this Natural
language option in the EBSCO UI?
Anne
[image: image.png]
Anne P. Hancock
Head of Resource Management, McQuade Library
Liaison for the Girard School of Business
Merrimack College I 315 Turnpike St. I North Andover, MA 01845
978-837-5350 | hancockan at merrimack.edu
On Fri, Jun 6, 2025 at 11:13 AM Electronic Resources in Libraries
discussion list via Eril-l <eril-l at lists.eril-l.org> wrote:
> We noticed this some time ago (and with ProQuest's ERIC as well) and never
> got a satisfactory response from either Ebsco or PQ. Would love to know
> what you all learn.
>
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> We are seeing this problem too. Kris what's the EBSCO case number so I
> can have EBSCO technical support add us to this case.
>
> One of our librarians just compared eric.ed.gov and EBSCO eric:
>
> I searched for k-12 students AND meditation (no quotation marks)
>
> eric.ed.gov = 507
> EBSCO eric = 34
>
> Thanks
> Joyce
>
>
> Joyce Kebert
> Serials/Databases Librarian
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> Dear List,
>
> A colleague at my institution reports that the Education Source database
> on EBSCOhost is retrieving far fewer results than expected.
>
> For example, a "Find all my search terms" search for [k-12 students AND
> meditation] currently returns 47 results, when in the past the same search
> has retrieved up to 20,000 results.
>
> Has anyone else noticed such a discrepancy?
>
> Thanks!
>
> John Holm (he/him)
> E-Resources & Discovery Librarian
> University of St. Thomas Libraries | library.stthomas.edu<
> https://library.stthomas.edu/>
> john.holm at stthomas.edu<mailto:john.holm at stthomas.edu> | (651) 962-5009 |
> OSF Library 155
> Zoom: https://stthomas.zoom.us/my/johnholm
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> Hi John-
>
> I saw this same situation when I ran a search I do each year in Sport
> Discus. It was also off by thousands. I opened a case at Ebsco and they
> are investigating it.
>
> Kris
>
> On Thu, Jun 5, 2025 at 3:11?PM Electronic Resources in Libraries
> discussion list via Eril-l <eril-l at lists.eril-l.org> wrote:
>
> > Dear List,
> >
> >
> >
> > A colleague at my institution reports that the Education Source
> > database on EBSCOhost is retrieving far fewer results than expected.
> >
> >
> >
> > For example, a ?Find all my search terms? search for [k-12 students
> > AND meditation] currently returns 47 results, when in the past the
> > same search has retrieved up to 20,000 results.
> >
> >
> >
> > Has anyone else noticed such a discrepancy?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
> >
> > *John Holm* (he/him)
> > E-Resources & Discovery Librarian
> >
> > University of St. Thomas Libraries | library.stthomas.edu
> >
> > john.holm at stthomas.edu | (651) 962-5009 | OSF Library 155
> > Zoom:
> > https://stth/
> > omas.zoom.us%2Fmy%2Fjohnholm&data=05%7C02%7Ckebertjm%40gcc.edu%7Cfbbae
> > bc9eb304d8fac7b08dda46c697a%7C8391896022184cd381fe302a8e771da9%7C0%7C0
> > %7C638847507736638900%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUs
> > IlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7
> > C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Ger9fHVVCsHvFNfA937yZRJRU23bwzIbWO76uSmdbmg%3D&reser
> > ved=0
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [image: University of St. Thomas : All for the Common Good]
> > <https://www/
> > .stthomas.edu%2Fe&data=05%7C02%7Ckebertjm%40gcc.edu%7Cfbbaebc9eb304d8f
> > ac7b08dda46c697a%7C8391896022184cd381fe302a8e771da9%7C0%7C0%7C63884750
> > 7736655996%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjA
> > uMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C
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