[Eril-l] FW: Kanopy vs. campus streaming?

Fri Oct 26 11:11:01 PDT 2018

We thought the same way you are thinking but and that is a huge BUT(no pun intended) is burden teaching departments will not support because they will argue that their budgets are tight as well.

LaRoi M. Lawton, MLS, MA, Ed.D
Deputy Chief Librarian
Assistant Professor
Coordinator, Learning Services
Library Department. North Hall – Room 253
2155 University Avenue
Bronx, NY 10453
718.289.5100, e65348(Voice-Live) (Fax)6063
Laroi.lawton at bcc.cuny.edu<mailto:Laroi.lawton at bcc.cuny.edu>

From: Eril-l <eril-l-bounces at lists.eril-l.org> On Behalf Of Trisha Burr
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2018 1:26 PM
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Subject: Re: [Eril-l] FW: Kanopy vs. campus streaming?

Thank you all for your thoughtful responses to this!
You have provided us with many approaches to consider in dealing with streaming costs.

I guess I was assuming a lot in some ways. It seemed like the major uptick in use of Kanopy had to be somewhat entertainment related and not just related to coursework. My thinking was that, if this were true, perhaps another unit on campus could take on the cost of providing streaming for students while the library would mediate Kanopy and make sure that those purchases were actually to support curriculum.

What I'm hearing from folks is that the increased usage at their institution's still seems to be related to course support. I was hoping to find some way for folks on campus to still have their streaming but not have the total cost burden be on the library.
Thanks again,
Trisha

On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 10:16 AM Laroi Lawton <laroi.lawton at bcc.cuny.edu<mailto:laroi.lawton at bcc.cuny.edu>> wrote:
Advocacy, advocacy, advocacy. That is the key here, especially for those resources that are clearly essential for student learning and success. I am unsure how much we pay for KANOPY in our department but I do know that because we are part of a larger University, and one of several community colleges, our cost is probably much lower, if we were a separate institution. With dwindling library budgets increasing across the country, advocating for more funding is a must do for all of us.

LaRoi M. Lawton, MLS, MA, Ed.D
Deputy Chief Librarian
Assistant Professor
Coordinator, Learning Services
Library Department. North Hall – Room 253
2155 University Avenue
Bronx, NY 10453
718.289.5100, e65348(Voice-Live) (Fax)6063
Laroi.lawton at bcc.cuny.edu<mailto:Laroi.lawton at bcc.cuny.edu>

From: Eril-l <eril-l-bounces at lists.eril-l.org<mailto:eril-l-bounces at lists.eril-l.org>> On Behalf Of Diane Westerfield
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This might be the time to get some pro-library, pro-Kanopy faculty in on the library’s behalf, advocating for increased budget to cover this. Saying to administration that these films are essential for classroom teaching, it makes class so much easier, etc.

We are also seeing a lot more use of Kanopy at my institution, with overlap of our DVDs of classic films. And yet I can’t blame faculty for not wanting to go through the hassle of getting a DVD player for class and checking out the DVD physically, and making sure it works with your classroom setup. It’s easier to use one’s customary laptop, presumably already rigged up to a projector or big monitor, and just stream the film from Kanopy. (except for when something goes wrong technically, of course).

What I worry about are the Great Courses video segments that are 30 minutes each. To pay the same for a trigger on those as for some 2 hour classic film would be really vexing. It hasn’t happened yet but I watch those monthly invoices like a hawk.

Diane Westerfield, Electronic Resources & Serials Librarian
Tutt Library, Colorado College
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(719) 389-6661

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Our use of Kanopy and streaming video has also gone up significantly, as faculty from all disciplines are using it for teaching purposes.  We don't think the services are being misused, but it's definitely having am impact on our already lean budget.  We haven't put any limits on use yet and will hold off as long as we can.

Best,

Jennifer

Jennifer L. van Sickle M.L.S.
Science and Electronic Resources Librarian
Trinity College Library
300 Summit St.
Hartford, CT USA 06106

860-297-2250

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From: Eril-l <eril-l-bounces at lists.eril-l.org<mailto:eril-l-bounces at lists.eril-l.org>> on behalf of Trisha Burr <tburr at macalester.edu<mailto:tburr at macalester.edu>>
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Subject: [Eril-l] Kanopy vs. campus streaming?

Hi,
I'm wondering if there are any libraries that have reached out to other departments on their campus about providing institutional streaming for students?

I ask this in relation to Kanopy since we have seen a dramatic increase in Kanopy usage. While we're happy that folks are using this resource, there's also the question of whether or not the library is the clear choice to be paying for this. I'm only aware of Swank and HBO Go that provide campus streaming.

My thinking is that the library could still license films for classroom use but maybe "entertainment" streaming could be paid for by student life or something similar.

Do others have thoughts about this?
Thank you,
Trisha

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DeWitt Wallace Library

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Saint Paul, MN 55105 USA

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