[Eril-l] Anatomy.tv usage statistics discrepancy

Jonathan P Shank j-shank at northwestern.edu
Mon Oct 9 13:30:36 PDT 2017


Thanks for the info, Tina & Chris. For what it's worth, we're on a yearly subscription agreement, and the HTML 5 upgrade has already been rolled out to us. Seems to work well.

If I remember correctly, they also marketed a one-time purchase agreement to us a few years back, but never gave us a clear answer on what would happen when web/streaming standards eventually change. I guess this answers that!

Jon

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From: Tina Adams [mailto:tmadams at email.wcu.edu]
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2017 14:37
To: Vidas, Chris <cdvidas at bsu.edu>; Jonathan P Shank <j-shank at northwestern.edu>; eril-l at lists.eril-l.org
Subject: RE: [Eril-l] Anatomy.tv usage statistics discrepancy

Hi Chris,

We did the one-time purchase as well which is why we are not too happy about this "upgrade".

Thanks for sharing,
Tina

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From: Vidas, Chris [mailto:cdvidas at bsu.edu]
Sent: Monday, October 9, 2017 3:35 PM
To: Tina Adams <tmadams at email.wcu.edu<mailto:tmadams at email.wcu.edu>>; Jonathan P Shank <j-shank at northwestern.edu<mailto:j-shank at northwestern.edu>>; eril-l at lists.eril-l.org<mailto:eril-l at lists.eril-l.org>
Subject: RE: [Eril-l] Anatomy.tv usage statistics discrepancy

Hi Jon and Tina,

We purchased permanent access to Primal Pictures (via Stat!Ref) several years ago.  We have also noticed a decrease in usage, but it is probably closer to a 10-20% decrease from 2016 to 2017 which is a far cry from the plummet mentioned by Jon.  I too would be skeptical of such a dramatic decrease in a single year unless Primal Pictures was only being taught in a single course that is no longer offered.

In any case, our drop in usage makes us hesitant to invest a large amount of money into the "upgrade" that they are now marketing for a resource that we had intended to be a one-time purchase.  I trust our usage numbers, but even without the drop, usage is low enough to make it difficult to justify an additional expenditure, especially that may be recurring every few years based on the future "upgrades" that the vendor mentioned.

Chris

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Subject: Re: [Eril-l] Anatomy.tv usage statistics discrepancy

Hi Jon,

We subscribe and are not sure whether to believe our stats either. We used to have access via an Ovid portal but that is no longer the case and the Primal Pictures has sent me the Jan-Sept stats for 2017. They say there is no stats portal for me to access the stats myself. However, the "logins" for us are actually quite high. Our problem is that we are on an older version of Primal Pictures that uses Flash which is now basically not working on newer browsers so the flash video content is not working off-campus and is only kind of working on campus. Primal Pictures is trying to sell us the HTML5 "upgrade" but I too am leery of the validity of the reports. Do you have the Flash version of Primal Pictures? If so, could that be causing the decrease in your stats, if users have stopped using it because the videos aren't loading?

Best,
Tina

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From: Eril-l [mailto:eril-l-bounces at lists.eril-l.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan P Shank
Sent: Monday, October 9, 2017 1:38 PM
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Subject: [Eril-l] Anatomy.tv usage statistics discrepancy

Are there any other Anatomy.tv subscribers on here? We're seeing a huge discrepancy in our usage statistics from 2016 to 2017 (93% decrease). Curious if others saw anything similar, or the problem is somehow unique to our account.

Either way it makes me seriously question the validity of their reports. We subscribe direct through Primal Pictures.

Thanks,
Jon

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